[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, but LT makes disparaging comments about all religions, it's all part of his mystique.

I know he does. That's what I'm calling him out on.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

We? Speaking on behalf of religious groups now are we?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Have I blinked and become a member of said religion or something? Try harder LT.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Both myths I'm afraid

I beg to disagree


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

My brother was a butcher for 25 years and started a 13, he has worked in slaughter house culled dear and cut them up while still warm, but he won’t let a animal go hungry get cold or be in pain.

This is the thing I'm trying to get across.

You can eat Meat (or be a Butcher in your Brother's case) and still have animals that you care about and love.

For me personally I could never envision myself harming any animal (I even rarely ever harm bugs or Spiders) and in a strange way I kind of see my Cat as a close family relative of mine.

But imo if you can so cold heartedly kill an animal for Religious reasons then not only is that Religion tucked up, but it shows a lack of any compassion for animals imo.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’d rather see an animal killed for food than one shot for sport.

Humans used to sacrifice humans for gifts to the gods.

Animals are killed by other animals it’s part of the food chain.

Exactly this.

I personally don't see how Meat eaters are just as evil as people that shoot Animals for Sport, but maybe I'm missing something.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

This is the thing I'm trying to get across.

You can eat Meat (or be a Butcher in your Brother's case) and still have animals that you care about and love.

For me personally I could never envision myself harming any animal (I even rarely ever harm bugs or Spiders) and in a strange way I kind of see my Cat as a close family relative of mine.

But imo if you can so cold heartedly kill an animal for Religious reasons then not only is that Religion tucked up, but it shows a lack of any compassion for animals imo.

I'm sure they have pet animals they care about too. They're not aliens.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The obvious answer to this is that whilst there may be a "hierarchy" they are all still criminals.

So, whilst different people justify their slaughter of animals for varying different reasons, they're still killing animals for their own ends and nothing to do with the wellbeing or life of the animal. So, again, it's all in the same box.

So would you say if a Wife kills her Husband because he used to domestically abuse her, would you then compare her to a Serial killer? Because after all they've both took a life, even if for different reasons.

I'm doing this hypothetical scenario because I bet that most people would rightly not see it as so black and white.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So would you say if a Wife kills her Husband because he used to domestically abuse her, would you then compare her to a Serial killer? Because after all they've both took a life, even if for different reasons.

I'm doing this hypothetical scenario because I bet that most people would rightly not see it as so black and white.

You're the one seeing it as black and white.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we may be talking at crossed purposes as I'm not following your point?

No we aren't. . Im asking if circumcision is ok because the kid doesn't die.

And is 'sport' ok when animals die because it's nothing to do with religion?

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You're the one seeing it as black and white.

I'm not the one declaring all people who eat or kill for Meat animals as the same as the people who kill animals in cold blood.

That's seeing things in black and white.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not the one declaring all people who eat or kill for Meat animals as the same as the people who kill animals in cold blood.

That's seeing things in black and white.

"in cold blood"?