[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not really. It's different moral standards.

Just because LT is not religious doesn't give him any highground.

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Tbf you could use that argument in the west aswell to anyone who follows any religion and why they still believe what they do

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Tbf you could use that argument in the west aswell to anyone who follows any religion and why they still believe what they do

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

So the old testament and 'an eye for an eye' is outdated and wrong?

I'm telling ...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

It's not "my" anything but you're saying all religious people are uneducated, yes?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not "my" anything but you're saying all religious people are uneducated, yes?

no, but they are (if they actually do) believing in something with no evidence and based on a common middle eastern myth from 2000 years ago. WHich is not great and most likely was illogically passed down to them by their parents.

Its a dying thing in the UK as it becomes harder to believe such things as technology progresses beyond what one reads in a poorly set out old book.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, but they are (if they actually do) believing in something with no evidence and based on a common middle eastern myth from 2000 years ago. WHich is not great and most likely was illogically passed down to them by their parents.

Its a dying thing in the UK as it becomes harder to believe such things as technology progresses beyond what one reads in a poorly set out old book.

That view could rightly be classed as antisemitic.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, but they are (if they actually do) believing in something with no evidence and based on a common middle eastern myth from 2000 years ago. WHich is not great and most likely was illogically passed down to them by their parents.

Its a dying thing in the UK as it becomes harder to believe such things as technology progresses beyond what one reads in a poorly set out old book.

So when everyone is more evolved all religion will die out?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So when everyone is more evolved all religion will die out?

LT is a highly evolved entity! ... Can't you tell?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So when everyone is more evolved all religion will die out?

Well as societies become more equal and educated religion has been seen to die out but there 260 million children in the world who currently dont go to school

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

We? Speaking on behalf of religious groups now are we?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Science giveth and science taketh away...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Why do religious people cut skin off babies?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why do religious people cut skin off babies?

I think as i recall it was initially to guard against welcoming into a tribe a stranger who could be dangerous, if they were circumcised they were part of them and so could be trusted. ie a sure fire way of making sure a person was who they said they were

back in early civilisation and through human evolution religion was discovered to be a way to make large numbers of people do things together and behave in large groups. One man could not make more than say 100 people do things, one god could make 5000

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think as i recall it was initially to guard against welcoming into a tribe a stranger who could be dangerous, if they were circumcised they were part of them and so could be trusted. ie a sure fire way of making sure a person was who they said they were

back in early civilisation and through human evolution religion was discovered to be a way to make large numbers of people do things together and behave in large groups. One man could not make more than say 100 people do things, one god could make 5000

The origins of it are not really known with any certainty. Pretty sure that skin art has been around equally as long though, so there would be other ways to identify yourself to a certain group. Is it a good or healthy thing to do in your opinion?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The origins of it are not really known with any certainty. Pretty sure that skin art has been around equally as long though, so there would be other ways to identify yourself to a certain group. Is it a good or healthy thing to do in your opinion?

its disgustng and most americans (80%) do it based on BS like "its healthier" or "cleaner"

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its disgustng and most americans (80%) do it based on BS like "its healthier" or "cleaner"

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think as i recall it was initially to guard against welcoming into a tribe a stranger who could be dangerous, if they were circumcised they were part of them and so could be trusted. ie a sure fire way of making sure a person was who they said they were



back in early civilisation and through human evolution religion was discovered to be a way to make large numbers of people do things together and behave in large groups. One man could not make more than say 100 people do things, one god could make 5000

Jesus .. there must be a less painless way of identifying people

A tattoo or a branding ??

Also why are these travelling strangers walking around with the knobbs on show



In the other side ... circumcised willies are a cleaner option and the guys can “go for’ longer as the heads aren’t as sensitive ..

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[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Jesus .. there must be a less painless way of identifying people

A tattoo or a branding ??

Also why are these travelling strangers walking around with the knobbs on show



In the other side ... circumcised willies are a cleaner option and the guys can “go for’ longer as the heads aren’t as sensitive ..

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Both myths I'm afraid

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Both myths I'm afraid

I beg to disagree


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[Livia]

Ah... circumcision. That took a little longer than I imagined.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ah... circumcision. That took a little longer than I imagined.

Lt got them on the run.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Lt got them on the run.

Not really, the tribal identification reasoning proves it's out dated today, as outmoded as this animal slaughter.... It is an ancient practice that our modern education and science should have taught us is totally unnecessary.

[Kizzy]

It's relevant to the discussion, some practices are seen as essential in the modern world and some not. I'd like to know too where to draw the line on ancient ritual and their relevance today.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's relevant to the discussion, some practices are seen as essential in the modern world and some not. I'd like to know too where to draw the line on ancient ritual and their relevance today.

how do you mean?