Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

View Poll Results: Should Fairytale of New York be banned from radio?
Yes 2 10.00%
Yes
2 10.00%
No 18 90.00%
No
18 90.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-12-2019, 03:55 PM #51
Jordan.'s Avatar
Jordan. Jordan. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 63,935

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky


Jordan. Jordan. is offline
Senior Member
Jordan.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 63,935

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky


Default

I can see the chav appeal, it's like the Mr Brightside of christmas songs.
Jordan. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:20 PM #52
Saph's Avatar
Saph Saph is offline
ॐ❤✌❤ॐ❤☯❤ॐ❤✌❤ॐ
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 54th St. Crenshaw
Posts: 33,806

Favourites (more):
CBB19: Kim Woodburn
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard


Saph Saph is offline
ॐ❤✌❤ॐ❤☯❤ॐ❤✌❤ॐ
Saph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 54th St. Crenshaw
Posts: 33,806

Favourites (more):
CBB19: Kim Woodburn
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. View Post
I can see the chav appeal, it's like the Mr Brightside of christmas songs.
__________________



Spoiler:



Saph is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:45 PM #53
Cal.'s Avatar
Cal. Cal. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 37,998

Favourites (more):
Love Island 6: Shaughna
IAC2019: Nadine Coyle


Cal. Cal. is offline
Senior Member
Cal.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 37,998

Favourites (more):
Love Island 6: Shaughna
IAC2019: Nadine Coyle


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. View Post
I can see the chav appeal, it's like the Mr Brightside of christmas songs.
Djdjdjdjdjjdjdjd
Cal. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:45 PM #54
Cal.'s Avatar
Cal. Cal. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 37,998

Favourites (more):
Love Island 6: Shaughna
IAC2019: Nadine Coyle


Cal. Cal. is offline
Senior Member
Cal.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 37,998

Favourites (more):
Love Island 6: Shaughna
IAC2019: Nadine Coyle


Default

That reminds me
Cal. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:50 PM #55
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. View Post
I can see the chav appeal, it's like the Mr Brightside of christmas songs.
Fantastic on the karaoke after the family meal though.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:51 PM #56
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal. View Post
That reminds me
That you're a big fat chav?
Marsh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 05:53 PM #57
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

It is priceless that his 2nd name is dyke though..I think that should be the only lesson we were taught today.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 06:38 PM #58
Matthew.'s Avatar
Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Matthew. Matthew. is offline
it’s a mad, mad world
Matthew.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 13,796

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Tera
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

Nooooo, it’s a tune! Why not just censor the offensive language like radio stations do with every other song rather than banning it all together?
__________________





Spoiler:








Matthew. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 06:40 PM #59
Strictly Jake's Avatar
Strictly Jake Strictly Jake is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 14,948

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Sharon Osbourne
BB2023: Yinrun


Strictly Jake Strictly Jake is offline
Senior Member
Strictly Jake's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 14,948

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Sharon Osbourne
BB2023: Yinrun


Default

I mean its definitely the one to sing to when you have had your fair share of christmas drinks!
__________________
Strictly Jake is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 06:43 PM #60
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
To be fair Kizzy, most people don't consider "Sex on the beach" to be a Christmas bop.
That's not the point he objected to the rude lyrics and kids singing them in the car... there are worse lyrics in worse songs that kids sing.
__________________
Kizzy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 06:51 PM #61
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,749

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,749

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I do think it's bilge but I actually disagree with the "chav" comment... in fact one of the reasons I dislike it as much as I do is the sheer scale of pretentious populism that's attached to the damn thing. I also don't think that Christmas is in particular need of being heavily linked to a song about alcoholism, heroin and lowkey domestic abuse. It's not grounded, quirky or gritty... it's a miserable dishwater soaked rag of a song. It's seen as the down to earth, "less mainstream" version of Christmas and people fap themselves silly over that, and I have no idea why, because it is absolutely everywhere, constantly. For months.
It's not really trying to be pretentious or quirky though or it wasn't at the time at least because it's completely in keeping with all of the Pogues other songs and it is true to their general sort of theme and sound as well as the lifestyle of a band whose career was volatile and heavily hazed by alcohol
MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:07 PM #62
Jigs Jigs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,336

Favourites (more):
BBUSA22: Bayleigh
Survivor 40: Parvati
Jigs Jigs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,336

Favourites (more):
BBUSA22: Bayleigh
Survivor 40: Parvati
Default

I like the song but I do feel uneasy when straight people are drunk and merry and choose to scream the word ****** as if it's funny/excusable just because it's in the song
Jigs is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:13 PM #63
Calderyon's Avatar
Calderyon Calderyon is offline
Mode: Broken
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Finland
Posts: 31,320

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Sheldon
BBCanada 7: Anthony


Calderyon Calderyon is offline
Mode: Broken
Calderyon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Finland
Posts: 31,320

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Sheldon
BBCanada 7: Anthony


Default

Heard it first time. Not a fan (not into the music of it), but the bad words do not bother me as it's just two married people insulting each other.

Last edited by Calderyon; 04-12-2019 at 07:26 PM.
Calderyon is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:16 PM #64
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN View Post
It's not really trying to be pretentious or quirky though or it wasn't at the time at least because it's completely in keeping with all of the Pogues other songs and it is true to their general sort of theme and sound as well as the lifestyle of a band whose career was volatile and heavily hazed by alcohol
I didn't say that the pogues are pretentious or quirky, I said that the GBP members who fap themselves silly over it every Christmas are pretentious, and like to think it's "the quirky/alternative choice". When at this point, it's about as "alternative" as a trip to Tesco.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:17 PM #65
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

In fact, I was just at Tesco, and it was bloody playing
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:18 PM #66
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
In fact, I was just at Tesco, and it was bloody playing
I hope it's stuck in your head until the new year.
Marsh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:28 PM #67
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jigs View Post
I like the song but I do feel uneasy when straight people are drunk and merry and choose to scream the word ****** as if it's funny/excusable just because it's in the song


I would bet my last pound they shout maggot louder than ******.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:30 PM #68
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I didn't say that the pogues are pretentious or quirky, I said that the GBP members who fap themselves silly over it every Christmas are pretentious, and like to think it's "the quirky/alternative choice". When at this point, it's about as "alternative" as a trip to Tesco.


It's fun at xmas..a song a father can sing with his daughter on karaoke..or a brother and sister..or a granny n gramps. ...


That's what makes it special for me...and many of this idiots viewers I imagine..someone's phone in section was flopping yesterday of you ask me.

Last edited by parmnion; 04-12-2019 at 07:33 PM.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:45 PM #69
hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,555


hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,555


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Agree or disagree?

A BBC DJ has called for a classic Christmas song to be banned from the radio as he doesn't think it's appropriate for children to hear



BBC Radio presenter Alex Dyke has caused controversy online after admitting he is "no longer comfortable" with the Christmas hit, Fairytale of New York.

Before hosting his afternoon show on BBC Radio Solent on Tuesday, December 3, the 57-year-old shared a series of now-deleted tweets ranting about the song.


In his posts, he slammed the 1987 track by The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl, calling it an "offensive pile of downmarket chav bilge".

He wrote: "Radio, let's ban Fairytale Of New York this Christmas!

"'You're a slut on junk, you scumbag, cheap lousy ******' - is this what we want our kids singing in the back of the car?



"It's an offensive pile of downmarket chav bilge. We can do better!"

Alongside the tweet he shared a photo of The Pogues' frontman, Shane MacGowan, missing his front teeth and looking rather dishevelled.

He later reiterated his point while on air, saying: "I hope I'm not going to ruin your Christmas, but I've decided that I am no longer comfortable with playing Fairytale of New York by The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl.

"I think Christmas songs should be about excited children, toys, Christmas trees, snowy streets, ski lodges, reindeer, wrapping paper, Santa, family, peace on earth and love.

"I just find The Pogues' Fairytale of New York a nasty, nasty song.

"I think it should be banned, I really do, so I won't be playing this record on the radio of this Christmas."

He added that by not playing the song, he was "making a stand for the good of the people".

A BBC spokesperson said they wouldn't actually be banning the song on their stations.

They commented: "This was Alex's decision. There is no ban. We have a strict music policy that we expect to be followed."

Fairytale of New York has sold close to 1.5 million copies to date and is often voted one of the nation's favourite Christmas songs - despite having a few offensive lyrics.

BBC Radio One had previously attempted to censor certain lyrics back in 2007, but this was met with backlash.

Dyke's comments this week were also met with backlash, with one person on Twitter writing: "Can we ban him instead? That will forever be a classic, he will be forgotten in days."

Another replied: "Fairytale of New York is a Christmas classic. All this nonsense about anything pre-2000 being offensive is ridiculous.

"It’s a fun song. Voice your opinion but don’t try to ban it. You’ll lose listeners which you can’t afford to do."

However some people did agree with his words and congratulated him on taking a stand.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-..._QRL8go5Ug3Upo

Just sack the bastard ! sorry i love the song and it keeps Kirsty alive ~ which she should be... but Reaper just said when you've heard it 30,000 times !
hijaxers is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:49 PM #70
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 55,090

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 55,090

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Imo I don't believe that songs should be banned, no matter what I personally think of the song.

If people want to hear it let them hear it.
__________________


KRO!
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 07:49 PM #71
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,595

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Ahem.



Typical old radio presenter trying to attract children to his radio show..
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 08:01 PM #72
Mystic Mock's Avatar
Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 55,090

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Mystic Mock Mystic Mock is offline
Jessica Meuse was robbed.
Mystic Mock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 55,090

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Rohan
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Joyless bast... look at all the dodgy sexualised lyrics in some songs.
I'll never forget cringing myself inside out listening to my little angel sing ' I wanna have sex on the beach, cmon everybody' on her kareoke!!
__________________


KRO!
Mystic Mock is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
banned, bbc, bilge, brands, calls, chav, dj, fairytale, york


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:41 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts