[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

SNP are banking on the Tories denying a referendum for a certain period of time, it's a level of authoritarianism that's key to securing votes.

We're effectively one big country, and keeping it together isn't authoritarianism.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

We're effectively one big country, and keeping it together isn't authoritarianism.

But denying people a choice definitely is.

Honestly, any right wing/tory that's actively against an indyref for Scotland is an utter indefensible hypocrite given that they will bleat on about the importance of democracy when it comes to Brexit but they won't allow Scotland a chance to make their own decision regarding whether THEY want to exit the UK in light of everything.

Democracy is democracy. denying people the right to vote because you fear the result is the antithesis of democracy.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But denying people a choice definitely is.

Honestly, any right wing/tory that's actively against an indyref for Scotland is an utter indefensible hypocrite given that they will bleat on about the importance of democracy when it comes to Brexit but they won't allow Scotland a chance to make their own decision regarding whether THEY want to exit the UK in light of everything.

Democracy is democracy. denying people the right to vote because you fear the result is the antithesis of democracy.

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

That's simply untrue. Even Farage expected to lose the referendum.
You are rewriting the past but we dont have amnesia Oliver.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

If you applied the same logic to Brexit then the 2016 vote wouldn't have happened.

It's hypocrisy, pure and simple. If the brexiters were in Scotland's position, they'd be demanding another referendum and would be throwing tantrums over it.

You are basically telling a whole country that didn't vote for Brexit or the current government that they have no stay and suffer with the rest of us and you're daring to defend brexit in the same breath like it's something completely different.

Utter hypocrisy.