[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wasn't the evidence the kids word against his

...I have no words...

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.

If this was a horse getting killed you wouldn’t be acting like this

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i tell you what the problem is with this thread title and its the same in many threads. The emphasis is placed on political affiliation rather than the deed itself. People are individuals and responsible for their own behaviour.

It's an important part of the story because the GOP labels itself as the party of family values. That isn't a title that has been given to them, it's the one they took.

There is no additional emphasis in the title, and as Ammi pointed out, this case was resolved right up until the point that the politician decided to interject himself.

You really are searching for an issue that doesn't exist outside the minds of 4 people. I posted the story, and the links with additional information about the now former governor. Really strange issue you've decided to pick out.

As an example, would this thread be better off labelled as "trump retweets group"?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...im#post9713754

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I have no words...

Apart from those ones you just posted to belittle someone again.....it's what it says in the article...near the endm

[Ammi]

...some of this thread is quite sickening...someone was convicted for 23 yrs for raping a child...he was convicted by that state’s justice system...and a governor has decided ...(against all medical expertise..)...that a human examination will be the deciding factor in pardoning this rapist ...when it’s already been decreed that it’s not an accurate or reliable examination for the courts...


...a family has to watch this man go free because of a decision by one governor, it’s very relevant that he’s a governor because he’s one of the few people with the power to have made that decision...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Apart from those ones you just posted to belittle someone again.....it's what it says in the article...near the endm

...my words are not belittling when I have no words...

[Ammi]

...a child can be doubted that she has been raped when the courts have decided that a man is guilty, a sentence has been given of 23yrs for the crime...those are the ‘words’ of the justice system...?...

...and yet...


...in some cases when it hasn’t yet gone through the justice system, when words could actually harm a prosecution or harm the protection of a child victim...in cases when Tommy Robinson has decided on his own ‘law’....the thought of a ‘child lying’ has never been a factor of discussion on this forum...

[lime]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.

Holy fok Kazannne .Are you for real?

I bet Denise is dead proud she has you on her side .


I have seen you over the years mention you are a friend of Denise and also a parent...and now you want to politise James murder over an American politican that pardonds paedophiles .You choose to have a different opinion....When it come to child rapists...there should only be one opinion.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...some of this thread is quite sickening...someone was convicted for 23 yrs for raping a child...he was convicted by that state’s justice system...and a governor has decided ...(against all medical expertise..)...that a human examination will be the deciding factor in pardoning this rapist ...when it’s already been decreed that it’s not an accurate or reliable examination for the courts...


...a family has to watch this man go free because of a decision by one governor, it’s very relevant that he’s a governor because he’s one of the few people with the power to have made that decision...

Ammi I was gang raped at 12 in South Africa because I am white.This thread is sickening for me because it only matters to some of the colour of the rapist and the child.


Still cant get over in 2019 the nonce is allways the victim

[Twosugars]

Even his own previously loyal Republican peers have expressed bewilderment. The top Republican in the state senate has called for an investigation of Bevin’s “extreme pardons and commutations”.

Mitch McConnell, the US senator from Kentucky better known as the Republican trying to stymie Trump’s impeachment trial in Congress, has denounced the release of “heinous criminals” in his home state as “inappropriate”.

As intrepid local journalists began to dig into the mountain of pardoned cases, other apparent horrors emerged.

They included further sexual offenders. Dayton Jones, who Bevin set free after three years of a 15-year sentence, had pleaded guilty to raping a boy aged 15 whose bowel he ruptured with a sex toy. Charles Phelps had his name removed from the sex offender registry by Bevin having pleaded guilty in 2013 to child abuse images offences and sexual conduct with minors.

The gruesome details of the violent crimes committed by some of those selected for commutation did not stop there. Delmar Partin was convicted of beheading a female co-worker and hiding her mutilated body in a barrel; Irvin Edge had hired a hitman to murder his business partner at home in front of his family; Blake Walker had killed his own parents.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ons-matt-bevin

[Twosugars]

Beggars belief

[smudgie]

Absolute mockery of any justice system.
A ruddy disgrace that the governors are allowed to pardon guilty people at all.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Beggars belief

What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by lime

What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..

Well said!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lime

What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..

It's a core issue with the right, it's so godamn hard for them to hold each other accountable because tribalism is rampant in the right wing.

This should be sickening regardless of political leaning but because a republican is involved, he'll automatically have his defenders no matter what he does. The guy has pardoned or lessened sentences for multiple child abusers, he should be despised by all sides.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Even his own previously loyal Republican peers have expressed bewilderment. The top Republican in the state senate has called for an investigation of Bevin’s “extreme pardons and commutations”.

Mitch McConnell, the US senator from Kentucky better known as the Republican trying to stymie Trump’s impeachment trial in Congress, has denounced the release of “heinous criminals” in his home state as “inappropriate”.

As intrepid local journalists began to dig into the mountain of pardoned cases, other apparent horrors emerged.

They included further sexual offenders. Dayton Jones, who Bevin set free after three years of a 15-year sentence, had pleaded guilty to raping a boy aged 15 whose bowel he ruptured with a sex toy. Charles Phelps had his name removed from the sex offender registry by Bevin having pleaded guilty in 2013 to child abuse images offences and sexual conduct with minors.

The gruesome details of the violent crimes committed by some of those selected for commutation did not stop there. Delmar Partin was convicted of beheading a female co-worker and hiding her mutilated body in a barrel; Irvin Edge had hired a hitman to murder his business partner at home in front of his family; Blake Walker had killed his own parents.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ons-matt-bevin

This guy is clearly corrupt.

He should be arrested himself imo.

And I would say the same if it was a Democrat Governor pardoning extreme criminals that should never see the light of day again.

[SherzyK]

Funny how some people are so quick to defend this man, but if he was a Muslim then they’d want him locked up by any means

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by lime

Holy fok Kazannne .Are you for real?

I bet Denise is dead proud she has you on her side .


I have seen you over the years mention you are a friend of Denise and also a parent...and now you want to politise James murder over an American politican that pardonds paedophiles .You choose to have a different opinion....When it come to child rapists...there should only be one opinion.

Ouch, I feel that is a little too personal Lime. Kaz does have close ties to the Bulger case and that's hitting a little too close to home bringing her personal history in to a debate.

Having said that, I struggle to compute any parent being able to condone a child rapist being acquitted when the child is living and of age to testify. Had I been the parent, I would certainly now be on trial for a double homicide.

A hymen being intact means nothing where child abuse us concerned and it's a worry that the people in this thread saying it is being politicised seem to be the people on the side.of the accused. He has politics on his side ffs..... and has been pardoned for dubious at best reasons.

The child in the middle of it is the person who my heart goes out to.....

On a side note....Lime, your personal experiences are horrific and my love comes to you

[lime]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Ouch, I feel that is a little too personal Lime. Kaz does have close ties to the Bulger case and that's hitting a little too close to home bringing her personal history in to a debate.

Having said that, I struggle to compute any parent being able to condone a child rapist being acquitted when the child is living and of age to testify. Had I been the parent, I would certainly now be on trial for a double homicide.

A hymen being intact means nothing where child abuse us concerned and it's a worry that the people in this thread saying it is being politicised seem to be the people on the side.of the accused. He has politics on his side ffs..... and has been pardoned for dubious at best reasons.

The child in the middle of it is the person who my heart goes out to.....

On a side note....Lime, your personal experiences are horrific and my love comes to you

PM'd you Annie

[Beso]

Thank you all for taking me pointing out the article pointing out how flimsy the conviction was and me pointing out those points as me siding with the paedophile..



Tibb really does make me proud.

[Kizzy]

So the way to know if a child has been violated is to violate them again?!!....

How and why was this allowed? If that was my daughter there would be no way in hell anyone would be touching her again!

Just what is the point of a justice system if one power mad deviant can override judgements?

[Tom4784]

The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.

Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.

Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.

Trust me..when you are raped when you are are a child ....their politics dont matter

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.

Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.

"The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat "

That isnt a fact its just your opinion

"but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators."

the rest of who and why are you speaking on their behalf?

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat "

That isnt a fact its just your opinion

"but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators."

the rest of who and why are you speaking on their behalf?

So you agree that what the governor did was wrong? Politics aside.