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Old 12-02-2020, 11:19 AM #126
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i don't care who it is as long as they beat Trump
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i don't care who it is as long as they beat Trump
I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.
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I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.
You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.
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I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?
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I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?
Bad for whom?
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I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?
Depends on who you listen to, him and his people would lead you to believe he’s the best thing since sliced bread, but then look at the other side, he’s cutting aide to to vital services for millions of people and the economy is doing quite while, but still worse than what it was under Obama, same as unemployment
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Katie calls him Saunders rather than Sanders, too.


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I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.
Do you think that his policies will appeal to most Americans? I hope that you're right, but he does seem quite liberal for America's tastes.
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I've never heard so much rubbish , Bernie is NOTHING like Trump .

Of Course
But he makes sweeping statements
like Trump does.


He is a Socialist
so the opposite to Conservative Trump
but males endless claims
that he has not backed up.
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It's between Bernie , Pete & Amy .

I wish they'd hurry up with all the votes, democrats need a leader soon and now ! . It's dragging out too much.



Yes Sleepy Joe Biden out
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You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.

Thats why
Trump is happy if Sanders wins
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Do you think that his policies will appeal to most Americans? I hope that you're right, but he does seem quite liberal for America's tastes.
I didn't say Bernie will Definitely win ,I said he's the democrats only CHANCE of winning .

Orange face Trump will likely get in again , but at least then the democrats know they couldn't of done anything else.

If a woman or gay person or someone of a different ethnic background ,or someone with a dodgy history was leader , they would have a bigger hate campaign against them . And it would be game over.

Look at the hate Hilary got back in 2016 .
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You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.
yes it is unbelievable so many want to vote for dictator orange clown trump
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What does this even mean? People in the Middle East are fighting for High Drug Costs and tuition fees? Also, the rest of the world are scratching their heads at how America is so far behind. Bernie would simply bring America into the 21st Century
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I didn't say Bernie will Definitely win ,I said he's the democrats only CHANCE of winning .

Orange face Trump will likely get in again , but at least then the democrats know they couldn't of done anything else.

If a woman or gay person or someone of a different ethnic background ,or someone with a dodgy history was leader , they would have a bigger hate campaign against them . And it would be game over.

Look at the hate Hilary got back in 2016 .
That is true that Bernie wouldn't face prejudice from the voters like some of the others would.

That's why the best trick that the right wing Media will go for in America will probably be to copy the UK's terrorist sympathizer angle, or Bernie loving some other controversial figures to destroy his vote within the country.
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That is true that Bernie wouldn't face prejudice from the voters like some of the others would.

That's why the best trick that the right wing Media will go for in America will probably be to copy the UK's terrorist sympathizer angle, or Bernie loving some other controversial figures to destroy his vote within the country.
They're already trying to smear Bernie, did you see the video clip of the woman that actually voted for Bernie due to the media bad mouthing him .

I hope more people support him , but they'll definitely try something to make him look bad. But he still has a better chance than Amy & Pete .

Hopefully people in America will use common sense.
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Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him
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Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him
Yeah I think the comparison I heard once was that their Democrats about align with our Tories.
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Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him
I dont agree with this thinking. Al Gore, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton all lost. The safe middle of the road candidate usually loses because why should Republicans vote for Republican-lite, like Klobuchar, when they can vote for the actual republican.
I feel its flawed logic at best. Using your thinking, Klobuchar, Biden, Bloomberg and Buttegeig are the best candidates. All bar Biden has a race problem. All will be easy to attack for Trump.
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Why shouldn't he travel first class? He can afford it, and no-one wants to travel peasant class lol
Nobody says he can't. It's just a caption contest making fun of him.

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Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him
One more thing, Warrens campaign is diving and it could be argued its due to a softening of her policies. The timing of her softer stance and lack lustre performance sand polling numbers do back up the claim. Harris' campaign also faltered after she softened her stance. I dont agree the middle of the road is the best choice for the Dems.

The one time they got radical, with Obama, they won. He then turned out to be the safest, middle of the road President ever but candidate Obama was exciting to both the GoP and Dems. The same could be said of Bill Clinton too.

Your argument is one that is peddled on MSNBC, CNN etc all the time. Its sounds like good logic but in practice it fails far more than it succeeds
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