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Old 17-02-2020, 11:25 AM #326
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Look if you run of to the papers that where putting your girlfriends life and yours on the front page for the paper sell more copies then you are as bad as the papers.

You don’t see her family running to the papers.

Yes I agree...you sell your story to the very paper that exposed as much detail as possible and probably did not help her mental state...the day after she dies.
Not a good look...quite inappropriate imo.
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the fundamental problem is that we are creating generations of people that are over reliant on the state protecting them from the big bad world. People shouldn't care less what others say about them, it certainly shouldn't be affecting their mental well being. People need to be taught how to cope when everything doesn't go the way they want it to. That is the fundamental failing that leads to situations like this.
I don't think that many people are prepared to go on the Internet to be insulted in every way imaginable tbf.
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Yes I agree...you sell your story to the very paper that exposed as much detail as possible and probably did not help her mental state...the day after she dies.
Not a good look...quite inappropriate imo.
This is why i think there was alot going on that we're not being told, the boyfriend sounds like he has issues aswell. Why do people keep going to The sleazy Sun to sell stories .
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This is why i think there was alot going on that we're not being told, the boyfriend sounds like he has issues aswell. Why do people keep going to The sleazy Sun to sell stories .
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So she had a friend staying with her, offering help. Then she tops herself when he's out at the shop..Im sorry but I find that so selfish and cruel..
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I disagree...you should be ashamed for attacking peoples looks or build. We are not on this forum to trash physical features and body shame...we are here to comment on behaviour and personality.
Some comments on here about BB and LI contestants have been deplorable.
What is this? Some kind of new religion? Something to fill the void that's been left by the rejection of Christianity?

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So she had a friend staying with her, offering help. Then she tops herself when he's out at the shop..Im sorry but I find that so selfish and cruel..
You obviously don't understand depression.
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You obviously don't understand depression.
What an absurd thing to say..


She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.
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What an absurd thing to say..


She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.
When a person is feeling low enough to take their own life then they can't think rationally. Selfish is the opposite of what she was, a selfish person would do anything to live.
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When a person is feeling low enough to take their own life then they can't think rationally. Selfish is the opposite of what she was, a selfish person would do anything to live.
Its not selfish to want to live!
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Its not selfish to want to live!
Holding the value of your own life over everything else is selfish to me. Thinking you deserve to die is self-hate. You don't think about the affect it would have on other people because you feel like nobody would even miss you when you're that low.
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From an interview in The Mirror (a tabloid)

In one interview, Caroline said: "It all started the day after I won Strictly. I woke up and felt like somebody had covered my body in clingfilm.

I couldn’t get up and just couldn’t pick myself up at all that next year.

"I felt ridiculous, being so sad when I’d just won the biggest show on telly and had such an amazing job.”

later in the same interview she says

"I certainly hate talking about my feelings. And being a burden is my biggest fear…

I’m lucky to be able to pick myself up when things feel ****."

(a contradiction )


https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...ssion-21505495

She was given anti-depressants but not sure is she was ever diagnosed with anything?
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What an absurd thing to say..


She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.
I’m not trying to start an argument with you but what I find cruel and selfish is this type of comment.
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I’m not trying to start an argument with you but what I find cruel and selfish is this type of comment.

Why..explain why!

That's nothing more than a cheep dig at me.
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Why..explain why!

That's nothing more than a cheep dig at me.
It's not a cheap dig, I agree with him.
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Why..explain why!

That's nothing more than a cheep dig at me.
It’s really not anything at “you” and I’m sorry if my came across that way to you. I think it’s cruel and selfish to condemn people for committing suicide, sorry if that’s offensive to you. I wasn’t necessarily a big fan of Caroline either, but there’s really no need to make nasty comments about her death like that
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What an absurd thing to say..


She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.
Have you ever been depressed in your life? Have you ever felt so low that you feel like you can't talk to anyone, and that you feel that suicide is the only escape?

That's what depression can do to you.
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wait we do not know the cause of her suicide, it could have been a cry for help that went tragically wrong
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She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.
People suffering with depression think they're doing people a favour by taking their own lives, it's not done out of selfishness, they're not thinking with a rational or healthy mind
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To end your life is to see nothing - or NO ONE - worth living for. That includes friends, family and colleagues alike. Had there been any sort of rational thinking about who she was leaving behind, I am sure she wouldn't have done it.

We know she had support from those around her but that doesn't make her selfish for doing what she did. There is nothing more powerful than the human mind so when that psyche becomes increasingly warped and damaged there is nothing that can be done to overpower it.
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She had many friends contacting her in her last few days, she had people staying with her..but she did this..sorry but I still find it cruel and selfish of her especially when people were reaching out to her.


Sadly you’re only allowed an opinion in here if it lines up with what the gang are going with ..

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Well thankfully you’re one of the more reasonable, level headed ones .

There is a strong mob rule mentality though .. I felt the whole force last night .


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Have you ever been depressed in your life? Have you ever felt so low that you feel like you can't talk to anyone, and that you feel that suicide is the only escape?

That's what depression can do to you.


Yes I've had all that and failed in a suicide bid at one of my lowest ebbs...Im so grateful now that I failed..

The thing with caroline though is she was talking to, and did talk to people...she has a strong network of friends and all her showbiz pals have tweeted they were giving her support in her final weeks and days.
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There is a strong mob rule mentality though .. I felt the whole force last night .


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