[michael21]

First he says stay at home

Then he want volunteers to help the nhs


Which is is scraffy hair man

[Smithy]

Not Brois

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Michael21

Which is is scraffy hair man

Screaming

[Zizu]

Like him or loath him he’s no idiot ..

He’s a very , very intelligent guy .


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[Redway]

He’s a bit more adept than you. He knows what he’s doing.

[Kate!]

Do not come for Boris.

[Redway]

At least he knows how to spell his own name.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

He’s a bit more adept than you. He knows what he’s doing.

Well I don't know about him knowing what he is doing tbf.

But despite saying that I do agree with Boris on trying to get as many people to help the NHS that can Humanly be available to help.

[Kizzy]

I don't think having untrained people is a good idea. ... Sorry but I don't, who is going to be training them? Are they going to be vetted adequately?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Like him or loath him he’s no idiot ..

He’s a very , very intelligent guy .


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Exactly,no one knows what this thing is he is just being led by experts,he hasa thankless job at the minute and I think he is doing as best he can, I doubt any of his doubters could do better.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think having untrained people is a good idea. ... Sorry but I don't, who is going to be training them? Are they going to be vetted adequately?

Not all the help will need training,others will already be trained

[bots]

The fundamental need is to have people capable of operating ventilators. That's a very small, specific skill, it doesn't require full medical training. This is about keeping people alive, nothing more

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think having untrained people is a good idea. ... Sorry but I don't, who is going to be training them? Are they going to be vetted adequately?

Yes they are asking for DBS checks, and identification ..passport/DL

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The fundamental need is to have people capable of operating ventilators. That's a very small, specific skill, it doesn't require full medical training. This is about keeping people alive, nothing more

The volunteers are delivering food and medicine to those being shielded, I don’t think they are being trained on ventilators

[Vanessa]

I think he's doing a great job so far. Firm, but fair.
I just hope people listen and keep going out to a minimum.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think having untrained people is a good idea. ... Sorry but I don't, who is going to be training them? Are they going to be vetted adequately?

Yes they are and they will deliver food and medicines to older people and people on self isolation etc.....

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Redway

He’s a bit more adept than you. He knows what he’s doing.

Debatable

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't think having untrained people is a good idea. ... Sorry but I don't, who is going to be training them? Are they going to be vetted adequately?

This is also the issue with them suddenly "temporarily registering" final year student nurses as full nurses... there seems to be this idea that as they're "nearly finished" they must be competent. But at the end of the final year of nursing training, there is a long final placement, and on that placement, they're assessed for their competency to be entering the profession. That hasn't happened yet for current final year students.

I don't think they realise how many fail that placement and have to repeat, and are thus not competent to be practicing as registered nurses without supervision. Scary ****.

Even the ones who do eventually pass, often have areas of incompetency picked up early in that last placement and the whole point of the placement is that they work on those areas to achieve competency.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This is also the issue with them suddenly "temporarily registering" final year student nurses as full nurses... there seems to be this idea that as they're "nearly finished" they must be competent. But at the end of the final year of nursing training, there is a long final placement, and on that placement, they're assessed for their competency to be entering the profession. That hasn't happened yet for current final year students.

I don't think they realise how many fail that placement and have to repeat, and are thus not competent to be practicing as registered nurses without supervision. Scary ****.

Even the ones who do eventually pass, often have areas of incompetency picked up early in that last placement and the whole point of the placement is that they work on those areas to achieve competency.

Unless the NHS want a raft of law suits, they will be supervised and will act as support to existing staff to cover breaks etc

People appear to be mixing up the NHS volunteers who are being asked to help out with the 1.5 who will be shielded and nursing staff

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not all the help will need training,others will already be trained

How.. how wI'll they be trained to deal with a pandemic? We haven't had one before.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Unless the NHS want a raft of law suits, they will be supervised and will act as support to existing staff to cover breaks etc

People appear to be mixing up the NHS volunteers who are being asked to help out with the 1.5 who will be shielded and nursing staff

Look at this idiot...

Technology expert*Alex Hamilton*, from Northampton, was among the first to sign up.

"I'm working from home but it's quiet. I'm doing a lot of gardening and this is an opportunity to do something to help - I've volunteered to do anything necessary."

His wife has a low immune system after having breast cancer twice and says she has concerns "about what I could be bringing back".

"But I want to do good," he said.

He can't even keep his own wife safe! If you want to do good don't expose your wife to a killer virus!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...mp/uk-52029877

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Yes they are and they will deliver food and medicines to older people and people on self isolation etc.....

The government scheme to recruit 250,000 helpers - who must be over 18 and in good health - went live on Tuesday.

By Wednesday morning, they had exceeded their target, after many thousands signed up to*Good Sam*, the group coordinating the response.

There's no mention of vetting for the people tasked with helping the vulnerable, I know there are wonderful people out there but sadly this situation had also brought out an ugly side that is exploiting people during the crisis.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Redway

At least he knows how to spell his own name.

He give murders rapist the chance to strike

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Unless the NHS want a raft of law suits, they will be supervised and will act as support to existing staff to cover breaks etc



People appear to be mixing up the NHS volunteers who are being asked to help out with the 1.5 who will be shielded and nursing staff

They're putting legislation in place to temporarily register final year students as fully paid, fully functional band 5 RNs. They don't have the staffing for them to be supervised; that's the whole point. No they won't be doing advanced procedures like intubating but they'll be functioning as NQNs when they're not assessed or qualified to do so... It's a bit of a shambles.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The government scheme to recruit 250,000 helpers - who must be over 18 and in good health - went live on Tuesday.

By Wednesday morning, they had exceeded their target, after many thousands signed up to*Good Sam*, the group coordinating the response.

There's no mention of vetting for the people tasked with helping the vulnerable, I know there are wonderful people out there but sadly this situation had also brought out an ugly side that is exploiting people during the crisis.

They are being vetted, they need a DBS check! and if they have a current one have to upload it