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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think America could get grimmer than usual before all this is over

They're already losing their **** and the governments of most states (especially red states) are showing clear signs of backing away from hard lockdowns. I think they know fine well that the collateral damage from trying to cage the Eagle is likely to outweigh potential Covid deaths. Of course, if the rest of the world continues with the policy of hard suppression over phased management... that creates a bit of a problem in terms of how those states are able to interact with the rest of the world (and potentially, given the federal nature of how this is being handled, how they interact with coastal states). We might see hard borders between states and that starts to smell a little bit like civil war.