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Old 26-05-2020, 10:55 PM   #901
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Just watching Sky’s Press Review where there is an absolute imbecile on ranting away about Cummings !!

James Meadway ... what an absolute bell***..

I don’t know why Sky give these people airtime as they just can’t give reasonable views on anything


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Old 26-05-2020, 10:56 PM   #902
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And I'm the opposite of amazed that you've, yet again, responded with another of your stock, empty, vapid replies to a post simply because it was a post I made.

Try actually adding to the discussion and sticking to its topic. Your silly point scoring couldn't be more boring.
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:01 PM   #903
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I'm amazed at how amazed everyone is (and also that anyone believes the eye test story). We're all amazed!
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:02 PM   #904
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:11 PM   #905
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I am just amazed he is still there.
Sack him, with no pension.
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:15 PM   #906
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I'm amazed at how amazed everyone is (and also that anyone believes the eye test story). We're all amazed!


Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Old 26-05-2020, 11:16 PM   #907
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And I'm the opposite of amazed that you've, yet again, responded with another of your stock, empty, vapid replies to a post simply because it was a post I made.



Try actually adding to the discussion and sticking to its topic. Your silly point scoring couldn't be more boring.


Oddly enough everyone knows that it’s usually me criticising you for doing that very same thing




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Oddly enough everyone knows that it’s usually me criticising you for doing that very same thing




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Stock, empty, vapid.
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:34 PM   #909
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Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Not sure how telling another lie (that you think you're the only one that realises) makes this whole issue any better for him.
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Old 26-05-2020, 11:42 PM   #910
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Not sure how telling another lie (that you think you're the only one that realises) makes this whole issue any better for him.


He never said that he took his family on that 30 minute drive to TEST his eyesight like everyone is suggesting though .

Here’s an excerpt from his statement


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“She didn't want to risk a nearly 300-mile drive with our child, given how ill I had been. We agreed that we should go for a short drive to see if I could drive safely. We drove for roughly half an hour and ended up on the outskirts of Barnard Castle town. We did not visit the castle. We did not walk around the town. We parked by a river. My wife and I discussed the situation. We agreed that I could drive safely, we should turn around, go home. “


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But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.

McLaren and Ferrari would do the same for top gear testing their car and the capabilities of its driver for the show.
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:02 AM   #912
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:03 AM   #913
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Hand on heart do you really believe he drove the family 30 minutes to TEST his eyesight ?

I heard him say that both him and his wife had reservations as to wether he had recovered enough to attempt the long drive home .. after being very poorly for the previous week or so ... he also referred to his eyesight being ‘weird’ as a filler to help justify how ill he’d been ..


Now there’s a whole ridiculous media frenzy suggesting he made the ‘test drive’ SOLELY to check his eyesight was ok


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Can you point me to the part of the lockdown info that says "Do not travel outwith your local area unless you need to test whether or not you're good to drive a longer distance"?

Also full disclosure, my main reason for hoping Cummings gone is not because of lockdown/covid stuff - it's because he's probably the most toxic and sinister entity in British politics for decades. Probably longer. He is a whispering snake and he has an influence over the current prime minister that is not even vaguely anything like normal. Everyone should want him gone, immediately, no matter their political allegiance, no matter what they think of his recent actions. Of course - for exactly the same reason - I know he's going nowhere, and the government response to this incident is clear proof of that.
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:05 AM   #914
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It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".
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But the head honcho government advisor isnt allowed to judge the severity of the situation he is dealt with..his government needs him..so as a strategist he obviously along with his wife ways up and thinks about all eventualitys regarding the drive back to work where as a key worker he is desperately needed.
But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:09 AM   #916
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But he SHOULDN'T be so desperately needed. The fact that the prime minister, the supposed leader of the country, seemingly can't function without this chap is a HUGE problem.
If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.
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If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.
As opposed to you believing... his completely contradictory and nonsensical statements?
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:12 AM   #918
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If you believe Twitter and **** like that, then yes..I would.probanly think that way as well.
I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:17 AM   #919
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:26 AM   #920
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It never ceases to make me crack up at a 30 minute journey continually being called a "short trip".


Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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I've known about Dominic Cummings since before Brexit, I'm not basing my opinions of him on Twitter, or anything that's happened in the last week.
Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.

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Old 27-05-2020, 12:40 AM   #922
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Now this morning Starmer was calling for Cummings’s head ..

Now apparently there was a political commentator on today’s Good morning Britain say that 4 labour MPs had broken the lock down and none had been punished by him.
Is this the case?

Does anyone know ??


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Is he a family man? Cause on this matter that's where I would begin my judgement.


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Well it is a short trip compared to the one from London to Durham.. surely ?


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It's not as long as Route 66 either, doesn't make it a "short trip" to test your driving skills.

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Interesting...
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Last Labour took on a new line and a new, harsher, tone. Instead of asking questions, the leader of the opposition pivoted to demanding the scalp of Dominic Cummings. Pitch forks were sharpened. Attack videos were made. The witch hunt campaign began in earnest.

Whilst this more aggressive strategy, as Corbyn’s used to, collects likes and retweets in droves online, Starmer has now opened up a can of hypocrisy worms that he will not be able to put back with any ease.

It isn’t that long ago that Labour’s Stephen Kinnock drove hundreds of miles to see his elderly parents during lockdown or that one of Labour’s few remaining MPs in County Durham, Kevan Jones, attended a constituents’ birthday party. On both occasions, Keir Starmer of course did nothing.

This new approach smacks bad faith hyper partisanship – exactly the approach the new Labour Leader told the nation he would avoid. Truly gone is the brief window of constructive opposition.

Starmer’s statement yesterday highlighted the tragic cases of people across this country not able to be with their loved ones in their final moments, and of mourners unable to find the closure and shared consolation of funerals. Yet this was the same Keir Starmer who did nothing to reprimand Labour MP Tahir Ali who attended a funeral in his constituency as one of 100 mourners at the start of April. The point scoring partisan double standards over such sensitive matters leaves a truly bitter taste in the mouth.

The statement is even more brazen when you take into account that Dominic Cummings himself was among the many millions of people robbed of being with their loved ones in their final moments. Due to the lockdown Cummings was unable to visit his uncle, whom he was exceptionally close to, through his final days in hospital in London. At the time, Cummings was isolating in Durham.

What a contrast to those Labour MPs who darted about the country for reasons other than safeguarding children with particular needs.

Even viewed under the harshest lens, the case of Dominic Cummings is less than clear cut. MPs like Steve Baker who have called for Cummings to go have spoken about the “spirit” rather than the letter of the rules being broken. This far from the same category of those Labour MPs who actually broke lockdown.

Labour’s Health Secretary in Wales, Vaughn Gething, had a picnic with his family in a park at a time when the Welsh Government he sits in explicitly said “No picnics in the park.” There is no wriggle room there. Keir Starmer of course stayed silent.

Once the guillotine has been dragged out for one person, it rarely works out well for the initial operators.

Labour needs to recognise they can’t cheer on the cancel culture revolution for their political opponents, while ignoring the graver misdeeds of their own. Keir Starmer is opening a pandora’s box of persecution, and it will not discriminate by party. This can’t be one rule for Labour politicians, and another rule for everyone else.


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