[arista]

"That's just the tip of iceberg."

Sure, Yes in the USA.

But Not in the UK

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by arista

"That's just the tip of iceberg."

Sure, Yes in the USA.

But Not in the UK

Not yet, anyways. You watch. Leftists demands NEVER become more sensible and sane over time. They always become crazier and wackier.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Not yet, anyways. You watch. Leftists demands NEVER become more sensible and sane over time. They always become crazier and wackier.

Labour have always been critical of cuts to police funding here...the government are in the process of recruiting based on an election manifesto commitment, it would be madness for Labour to support such a move.. you can.keep it on your side of the pond :

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Not yet, anyways. You watch. Leftists demands NEVER become more sensible and sane over time. They always become crazier and wackier.

The UK Crazy Left
Lost big time
in the Dec 2019 General Election



No way are they getting any UK power
we are not like the USA

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Not yet, anyways. You watch. Leftists demands NEVER become more sensible and sane over time. They always become crazier and wackier.

Said the Right Wing american in this era of Trump.

You can't gaslight the left when your country has a lunatic sanctioned and protected by the republicans in office. Employ some self awareness.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Said the Right Wing american in this era of Trump.

You can't gaslight the left when your country has a lunatic sanctioned and protected by the republicans in office. Employ some self awareness.

Two things can be true at once - Trump can be a joke, and lefties can make stupid demands.They're not mutually exclusive.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Two things can be true at once - Trump can be a joke, and lefties can make stupid demands.They're not mutually exclusive.

I have no time for centrists that try to make out both sides are as bad as each other when it's blatantly not the case especially when it's the false brand of centrism that only exists to make one side look better with inherently flawed comparisons.

Trump holds the power and he is protected by the Senate. In the past few days alone, he has attacked LGBT rights on the anniversary of the Pulse shootings and tried to host a rally at the site of one of the worst black massacres in history on Juneteenth. Thankfully someone talked him out of the latter but it doesn't change the fact that he would have done it otherwise. Oh, and that same rally would have seen people having to sign release forms to attend in case they caught Covid since Trump is insisting on no social distancing at his rallies and tried to do so at the Republican convention when most ****ing republicans would be in the danger zone when it came to Covid.

I can keep going, if you like?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have no time for centrists that try to make out both sides are as bad as each other when it's blatantly not the case especially when it's the false brand of centrism that only exists to make one side look better with inherently flawed comparisons.

Trump holds the power and he is protected by the Senate. In the past few days alone, he has attacked LGBT rights on the anniversary of the Pulse shootings and tried to host a rally at the site of one of the worst black massacres in history on Juneteenth. Thankfully someone talked him out of the latter but it doesn't change the fact that he would have done it otherwise. Oh, and that same rally would have seen people having to sign release forms to attend in case they caught Covid since Trump is insisting on no social distancing at his rallies and tried to do so at the Republican convention when most ****ing republicans would be in the danger zone when it came to Covid.

I can keep going, if you like?

If you like

I don't particularly approve of his presidency, but that doesn't make demands to defund the police in the UK any more valid there are better battles to pick.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If you like

I don't particularly approve of his presidency, but that doesn't make demands to defund the police in the UK any more valid there are better battles to pick.

Except that it's not an invalid demand, the US police should be defunded because it's inherently and systematically broken.

You can't change the goalposts, Oliver. Liberty was speaking about US 'leftists' being crazy, I pointed out the folly of that statement considering the US right, you tried to play both sides to paint the right in a favourable light and now you're trying to compare.... the US Right Wing and Donald Trump to the vague notion that BLM UK wants to defund the UK police based on an analytical article that talks about such things as a hypothetical scenario. It doesn't say that BLM UK wants to defund the UK police, it just poses the question of it's possible and how it could work or fail.

An article on a hypothetical discussion does not equate to 'BLM UK wants to defund the police'.