[Crimson Dynamo]

Good idea,

Many parents will beill informed to make the call. Basing decisions on social media gossip and faux anecdotes

[arista]

Kevin Courtney
National Education Union
is against this.
He wants more Money Invested
to have smaller groups.

He says no PPE
and bad ventilation is not good

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[Zizu]

If every sector has made the appropriate changes schools must also. If parents are being asked to move their desks, not use lifts, wear masks on transport etc they will expect the same for their children. Regardless if children can\might/don’t/won’t spread the virus.

Schools will have to make changes to curriculum, class size, bubbles, staggered starts and breaks and having children working from home online.

Primary schools to have bubbles of 30
Secondly will be ‘whole year group bubbles’ - so bubbles of up to 240 !!


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[Tom4784]

If you're okay with dragging your kids out on needless shopping trips and other ventures just 'for a day out' then you should be fine with them going to school in a controlled environment in which they'd be safer than they would traipsing around Primark.

Some concerns are valid and some things should be decided on a case by case basis but schools will probably be one of the safest places for kids to be come September.

[Kizzy]

At this point what happens in Sept is all speculation. Covid likes the cold...by Sept we could all be on lockdown again.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

At this point what happens in Sept is all speculation. Covid likes the cold...by Sept we could all be on lockdown again.

Boris isn't going to lockdown the whole UK again.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Boris isn't going to lockdown the whole UK again.

Maybe not but if the death rate climbs to the level it was during lockdown even he will have trouble finding enough bull**** reasons why we aren't.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

with all honesty parents should not be fined, if they are still too scared of sending their children back to school

quite a few parents here in Netherlands still keep their children at home, because they don't feel comfortable yet sending them to school this soon

Very sensible too as to your last paragraph.

If I was a Parent.
Not a chance if things are even as they are now come September, would I be permitting my children to go to school.

Not with social distancing now only advised not enforced.
Not a chance, no way.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very sensible too as to your last paragraph.

If I was a Parent.
Not a chance if things are even as they are now come September, would I be permitting my children to go to school.

Not with social distancing now only advised not enforced.
Not a chance, no way.

It does seem like it’s all being driven by financial reasons


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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

with all honesty parents should not be fined, if they are still too scared of sending their children back to school

quite a few parents here in Netherlands still keep their children at home, because they don't feel comfortable yet sending them to school this soon

So if people are still scared in a years time its ok for kids to still be at home and not at school? Sorry i don't agree with that.

[Cherie]

Kids went to school during the swine flu pandemic and that affected a younger age group, Covid does not affect kids in any meaningful numbers any more than getting meningitis, or tonsilities or sepsis, parents don't keep their kids off because they might risk getting those, the only parents who should have concerns is if they or a child have been shielding

[Ammi]

...I think for many/most schools, who may feel reluctance from parents to send their children back in September...it’ll be about building up the trusts and reassurances and not alienating through fines...fines have always had head teacher discretion and they’ll know what the general mindset of their parents is at the time...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So if people are still scared in a years time its ok for kids to still be at home and not at school? Sorry i don't agree with that.

If I was a Parent genuinely scared for my child's welfare in any scenario.
I wouldn't be prepared to put them in any risk whatsoever.

If things are as they are now in a years time, IF and you don't know if they will be or not.
Then if any Parents are scared now, then they will be then.

For me, the removal of social distancing in schools being enforced to now only advised.
Is a dangerous risk and I wouldn't support that.

These children not social distancing will be out in the community after school.
Back to families, older and younger members.
Travelling on school buses or other transport.

If I was a Parent, I'd be really worried indeed.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It does seem like it’s all being driven by financial reasons


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Absolutely it is.
Despicable.

[user104658]

Honestly it's becoming a balancing act for parents... Children's mental health is really suffering at this point. There's no way you could keep kids doing this for a year or more, it would be inhumane.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If I was a Parent genuinely scared for my child's welfare in any scenario.
I wouldn't be prepared to put them in any risk whatsoever.

If things are as they are now in a years time, IF and you don't know if they will be or not.
Then if any Parents are scared now, then they will be then.

For me, the removal of social distancing in schools being enforced to now only advised.
Is a dangerous risk and I wouldn't support that.

These children not social distancing will be out in the community after school.
Back to families, older and younger members.
Travelling on school buses or other transport.

If I was a Parent, I'd be really worried indeed.

I am a parent and one of mine has been going to school most of time during all this Joey, IF a child has underlying illnesses I fully understand not sending them ,but I really don't think keeping them off indefinitely is helpful to their wellbeing or education ,some children are vulnerable and are safer at school ,it's a hard one it's up to each individual, but by September I think most of them should be back, that's just my opinion.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly it's becoming a balancing act for parents... Children's mental health is really suffering at this point. There's no way you could keep kids doing this for a year or more, it would be inhumane.

None of my great Nephews and Nieces will be going anywhere where no social distancing is applied.

There are loads of buildings not being used which could have been used to help re schooling.
.thereby having social distancing in place and in smaller numbers.

Libraries for instance, most with installed computers all closed.
They could have been used.

The planning has been a shambles and if this is the best they've come up in the last 3 to 4 months should be seen as very worrying as to near incompetence at the very least.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly it's becoming a balancing act for parents... Children's mental health is really suffering at this point. There's no way you could keep kids doing this for a year or more, it would be inhumane.

...I’ve never known mental health in children to be so poor as I’ve experienced in the last few months, it’s heartbreaking and difficult to know if any far reaching impacts ...and obviously it’s largely caused by parents struggling as well...it’s much easier obviously to be face to face as we are now with some years...than reaching out and communicating electronically...schools need to be back fully so desperately and I hope that happens in September...but only if parents are reassured of safeguarding and procedures, not threatened with dumb fines...life has been and is difficult enough financially for so many, fines achieve nothing...

[bots]

people need time to be re-assured. If everything calms down for a couple of months parents will be much more comfortable about sending their kids back to school. If the infection rate increases dramatically the government can shove it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am a parent and one of mine has been going to school most of time during all this Joey, IF a child has underlying illnesses I fully understand not sending them ,but I really don't think keeping them off indefinitely is helpful to their wellbeing or education ,some children are vulnerable and are safer at school ,it's a hard one it's up to each individual, but by September I think most of them should be back, that's just my opinion.

Has your child been going into classes with NO social.distancing and a full classroom too.

Like they will be come September.

Everybody thinks they should be back.
With the maximum safety however.

They've had them back in Leicester now they've had to close schools again.
You say there's no risk.
I think there's too.much doubt there isn't.

It is up to each individual.
There'll be good Parents who believe there's no risk.
There'll be equally good Parents who are scared and believe there is risks.

Shielding stops in August too.
More vulnerable sick and elderly likely out and about.
Mingling with schoolchildren with no masks and not doing social distancing in schools.
Once out of school.

Doesn't sound promising to me in any shape or form.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’ve never known mental health in children to be so poor as I’ve experienced in the last few months, it’s heartbreaking and difficult to know if any far reaching impacts ...and obviously it’s largely caused by parents struggling as well...

I don't even think it always is that Ammi, I think we've maybe underestimated the importance of kids having face to face interaction with each other / physical play for their mental health. My and my wife are both doing great in lockdown... my mental health is better than it's been in years . But my eldest, even just in the last month or so, has really started to struggle with being isolated from her friends and general lack of social contact. They have phones etc. obviously but we've actually had to impose a "tech detox" this week as it seemed to actually be making things worse - a lot of the kids getting easily frustrated / nasty in their chat groups. The lack of REAL social contact with peers is causing signs of anxiety and depression in the kids of pretty much every parent I've spoken to. The latest news here is that they're all going back full time in August... it's my eldest's final year at primary school. She'll be absolutely devastated if something changes.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't even think it always is that Ammi, I think we've maybe underestimated the importance of kids having face to face interaction with each other / physical play for their mental health. My and my wife are both doing great in lockdown... my mental health is better than it's been in years . But my eldest, even just in the last month or so, has really started to struggle with being isolated from her friends and general lack of social contact. They have phones etc. obviously but we've actually had to impose a "tech detox" this week as it seemed to actually be making things worse - a lot of the kids getting easily frustrated / nasty in their chat groups. The lack of REAL social contact with peers is causing signs of anxiety and depression in the kids of pretty much every parent I've spoken to. The latest news here is that they're all going back full time in August... it's my eldest's final year at primary school. She'll be absolutely devastated if something changes.

...absolutely it hasn’t always been a whole family struggling/..parents struggling...but it has had a huge bearing in terms of families who are now under a social worker and they weren’t before lockdown...the general family tension obviously impacts on everyone in the house and with quarantine there has been no escape from the house...we’re also told that there has been a rise in alcohol drinking in homes, which is something that I’ve personally experienced as well...it’s very sad for this year’s Year 6 because they haven’t experienced the end of their Primary School days in the same way as others have in the past, there are so many things that they’ve sadly missed out on which is so helpful to ease their transitions...I’m glad that it wasn’t your daughter's last year this year and hopefully she’ll get to experience everything fully in her final year...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

None of my great Nephews and Nieces will be going anywhere where no social distancing is applied.



There are loads of buildings not being used which could have been used to help re schooling.

.thereby having social distancing in place and in smaller numbers.



Libraries for instance, most with installed computers all closed.

They could have been used.



The planning has been a shambles and if this is the best they've come up in the last 3 to 4 months should be seen as very worrying as to near incompetence at the very least.

Using external buildings just isn’t feasible...plus to have more rooms with teachers means MORE teachers ..

With a school like ours (1,300 pupils ) how can we organise a group of pupils to randomly turn up at say a room in a library at 9 am tomorrow morning ... bring your own food and drink plus sort your own transport ..

That’s before the safeguarding legislation kicks in where every person in the allocated building would need official clearance to be around children.


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...absolutely it hasn’t always been a whole family struggling/..parents struggling...but it has had a huge bearing in terms of families who are now under a social worker and they weren’t before lockdown...the general family tension obviously impacts on everyone in the house and with quarantine there has been no escape from the house...we’re also told that there has been a rise in alcohol drinking in homes, which is something that I’ve personally experienced as well...it’s very sad for this year’s Year 6 because they haven’t experienced the end of their Primary School days in the same way as others have in the past, there are so many things that they’ve sadly missed out on which is so helpful to ease their transitions...I’m glad that it wasn’t your daughter's last year this year and hopefully she’ll get to experience everything fully in her final year...

Yeah, they do a big class trip towards the end of the year in final year and this year's leavers missed it. Honestly if you asked my daughter, they might as well have been dropped in a vat of acid . She's constantly worrying about missing out on hers next year.

[Zizu]

An Ofsted official apparently said today on BBC Radio 4 that good teachers will be inventive and work/teach outdoors ...

It seems to rain most days in the NW !!


These people are deluded ..


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