[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

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Nahh, having read back the first page, all of this started when you claimed that a fetus can't support its life outside of the womb until ready to be born, which is false, and that "pretty much for the entirety of" the period where abortion can be chosen (24 weeks) a fetus is a bundle of cells (when that's only even vaguely true for about 10-12 weeks). You then tried to wind that back and say that you meant the period when most abortions take place - before 10 weeks - but that's not what you said.




All I did was question these two demonstrably dubious statements... Not even aggressively... It was a perfectly civilised post in disagreement... And you responded by calling me a "show off" and complaining that I had "called you a liar".

Its just not any part of a reasonable debate, but I think the vast majority of people can see that for themselves so I'm not going to dwell on it. The thread's here to be read. In my opinion, you respond with defensiveness and aggression LONG before it's warranted and on a hair trigger, but you do you I suppose. I don't imagine it feels very good.

Dezzy this post literally proves your change in narrative throughout the thread once caught to be spreading Misinformation about foetal life and premature births, he has used your own quotes and nothing has been manipulated. You can’t hide between “manipulation” or stating that people know what you mean, almost everyone in this thread have stated a foetus clearly is a life form at 24 weeks. Just admit you got the biological facts wrong and stop digging yourself a further hole. He is not gaslighting you he is just proving what you have said throughout this thread to be Factually and scientifically incorrect (aka a foetus being ball of cells for up to 24 weeks, a foetus not being considered a life until 30 weeks / being able to survive out the womb). People aren’t shouting down your philipsopjical options we are just pointing out posts you made that are wrong by stating facts. You can’t argue with scientific facts.. I don’t understand why you are being so defensive, nothing wrong with not being uneducated on the science of developmental biology

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Dezzy this post literally proves your change in narrative throughout the thread once caught to be spreading Misinformation about foetal life and premature births, he has used your own quotes and nothing has been manipulated. You can’t hide between “manipulation” or stating that people know what you mean, almost everyone in this thread have stated a foetus clearly is a life form at 24 weeks. Just admit you got the biological facts wrong and stop digging yourself a further hole. He is not gaslighting you he is just proving what you have said throughout this thread to be Factually and scientifically incorrect (aka a foetus being ball of cells for up to 24 weeks, a foetus not being considered a life until 30 weeks / being able to survive out the womb). People aren’t shouting down your philipsopjical options we are just pointing out posts you made that are wrong by stating facts. You can’t argue with scientific facts.. I don’t understand why you are being so defensive, nothing wrong with not being uneducated on the science of developmental biology

And you're calling me uneducated while riding on TS' tail coat yet again. Let's look at your posts, shall we?

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Life doesn’t begin at birth. Are you saying people should be able to abort at 38weeks old when the foetus is fully developed because it’s not born yet ? That is just extremely cruel and just crazy to me.

Emotional and reactionary, and then after TS makes a more knowledgeable post your posting style changes a lot to mimic his. You also make a point of posting after TS' latest post every time just so you can basically repackage what he's saying. Calling people uneducated and then going on about how you're a medical student isn't compelling when it's plain to see you're reliant on TS' knowledge to prop yourself up.

I said it to you before and I'll say it again, it doesn't matter who you say you are, your logic and your knowledge is what counts.

I'm not going to change my opinion because I've seen nothing that compels me to do so and screeching at me to change my opinion won't do ****. It just reflects badly on you. If you can't convince me otherwise than that's on you for not offering forth a good argument. Learn from Annie's example, this ain't an argument you're going to win and screeching at me to change my opinion won't get you anywhere.