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Old 25-07-2020, 11:49 AM #151
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This paragraph from Jet's posted article from The Times sums up the whole thing for me.

"The book talks of Harry and Meghan’s popularity “propelling the monarchy to new heights around the world” and the couple’s frustration that the “men in grey suits” sometimes forced them to “take a back seat” to other family members. This was apparently particularly galling when an analysis of the online popularity of the Cambridges and Sussexes showed that Harry and Meghan accounted for 83 per cent of the world’s interest in the two couples. Yet this obsession with the power of their own celebrity shows a striking lack of awareness of what Britain expects of its royals. The monarchy is not a brand that requires global promotion but a core part of the constitution whose value lies in its stability. That requires the restraint of its members."
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A very interesting read...

..and I agree with it all.
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From reading the press it seems as if Meghan was simply jealous of Kate and thought she would just be a celebrity and it hadnt occurred to her she would have to work as being a royal as a job
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From reading the press it seems as if Meghan was simply jealous of Kate and thought she would just be a celebrity and it hadnt occurred to her she would have to work as being a royal as a job
"From reading the press"
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"From reading the press"
yes because we are discussing the book about pair have given to be serialised by the Times but in all media

The biography is written by journalists Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, who are fans of the couple and have set out to 'correct the record' and shift the spotlight on to their charitable ventures.

The Sussexes say they did not contribute to the book, but Scobie and Durand's account is based on extensive insight from friends of the couple.
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A statement said: "The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were not interviewed and did not contribute to Finding Freedom.
"This book is based on the authors' own experiences as members of the royal press corps and their own independent reporting."



...so it’s basically ...the book version, continuation of their media portrayal...


...I have to say though, it doesn’t paint the Royals in general in a great light, including William and Kate....
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...I’ll probably wait and watch the movie based on the book based on the media slants, when it comes out...
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A book by a couple of journalists, about a couple they haven’t spoken to, based on press stories and anonymous ‘sources’

I’m sure it’ll be incredibly accurate
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A book by a couple of journalists, about a couple they haven’t spoken to, based on press stories and anonymous ‘sources’

I’m sure it’ll be incredibly accurate
The book is written by authors sympathetic to the couple, who have spoken extensively to their friends, and tells Harry and Meghans side of the story as told to their freinds...so glad you aren't going to believe most of this biased journalism.
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A book by a couple of journalists, about a couple they haven’t spoken to, based on press stories and anonymous ‘sources’

I’m sure it’ll be incredibly accurate
...yeah, whatever it’s slant, a book aimed at making money above all else...
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I wonder when Harry and Meghan are going to sue their friends for talking to journalists and invading their privacy...
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The book is written by authors sympathetic to the couple, who have spoken extensively to their friends, and tells Harry and Meghans side of the story as told to their freinds...so glad you aren't going to believe most of this biased journalism.
They might be sympathetic towards them, but they can’t claim it’s their story or that it’s from their point of view, if they haven’t spoken to the couple directly, it’s based off of hearsay and press reports
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They might be sympathetic towards them, but they can’t claim it’s their story or that it’s from their point of view, if they haven’t spoken to the couple directly, it’s based off of hearsay and press reports
They knew this book was going to be written a year ago. The authors themselves said they were contacted by the couple about their intentions for the book way back. Harry and Meghan talk to their friends....the friends talk to the authors. Surely you know how these things work.
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‘Speaking about the book in an interview with the Times, also published on Saturday, co-author Omid Scobie stated that he felt Meghan was ‘ripe for exploitation by certain tabloids... She was a biracial woman stepping into the House of Windsor. That was going to ruffle feathers. We only need look at the Duchess Difficult narrative. What is “difficult”? Difficult is pushy, aggressive. It’s all the things that we throw on black women as a society regardless of what their actual personality is.’

The Daily Mail previously reported that there was a sense of apprehension among ‘Palace insiders’, who are concerned it will be used to ‘settle scores’. Although the work bills itself as having been authored ‘with the participation of those closest to the couple,’ the newspaper alleges that Harry and Meghan may even have spoken to the authors directly themselves. This has been denied by a spokesman for the Sussexes and by the book’s authors.‘
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They knew this book was going to be written a year ago. The authors themselves said they were contacted by the couple about their intentions for the book way back. Harry and Meghan talk to their friends....the friends talk to the authors. Surely you know how these things work.

I guess if any untruth is spoken..they will be in touch with their Lawyers
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it was their decision to leave the press protection they had in the UK and move overseas. It's not right that people invade privacy but it's hardly unexpected
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entert...cs/3080320001/
New book to tell Harry and Meghan's 'real' story (and defend them from critics)

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LONDON — Freed from the constraints of life as full-time royals — and enmeshed in an increasingly bitter feud with Britain's tabloids — Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan of Sussex plan to tell their story in a book penned by sympathetic journalists.

Harper Collins U.K. announced Monday that it will publish "Finding Freedom: Harry and Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family" in Britain and the Commonwealth on Aug. 11.

The book will be published in the U.S. the same day by HarperCollins-owned Dey Street Books.

It won't be the first book about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex – at least a dozen have been published, many by British royal reporters – but it appears to be the first in which they have cooperated with the intention of refuting their critics.

The book's authors are Harper's Bazaar royal editor Omid Scobie and Elle magazine royal correspondent Carolyn Durand, who said they aim to capture "the real Harry and Meghan" and "finally present the truth of misreported stories" about them.

Scobie has been an admirer and defender of Meghan since her relationship with Harry began in 2016. He was one of the few journalists invited to her tearful farewell to Buckingham Palace staff in early March, when she carried out her last public engagement and departed London for Canada.

Meghan, 38, and Harry, 35, and baby Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, who turns 1 on Wednesday, have since moved to her hometown of Los Angeles where they are building a new non-royal life while in quarantine during the coronavirus pandemic.

The publisher said the book will tackle "the many rumors and misconceptions that plague the couple on both sides of the pond." It says the authors have been given "unique access" and the cooperation of those closest to the couple.
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I looked up the authors' names and they are American royal correspondents so I wouldn't expect it to be the most accurate thing ever.

Ultimately all of this with Harry and Meghan probably won't be that significant for the monarchy because Harry isn't a direct heir to the throne. If it was William it would be different.

I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole on Wiki there reading up on Prince Regents - the person that would become the temporary Monarch if, say, Prince George was due to be King but he was still too young - and the current rules say Prince Harry would be entitled to it (but he'd have to move back to the UK).

Although parliament could make a new law (happened in 1952) to give the position to someone like Kate.
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we still have no evidence the drone was taking pics or was up there due to them. Lots of drones in LA
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I looked up the authors' names and they are American royal correspondents so I wouldn't expect it to be the most accurate thing ever.

Ultimately all of this with Harry and Meghan probably won't be that significant for the monarchy because Harry isn't a direct heir to the throne. If it was William it would be different.

I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole on Wiki there reading up on Prince Regents - the person that would become the temporary Monarch if, say, Prince George was due to be King but he was still too young - and the current rules say Prince Harry would be entitled to it (but he'd have to move back to the UK).

Although parliament could make a new law (happened in 1952) to give the position to someone like Kate.
Thats interesting....imagine Queen Kate
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well i can imagine that, since we call ours Queen Maxima too so

you guys have every right of the ''Queen Kate'' title
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royalty news is among my interests yes

if some were doubting that from me, i personally like Harry/Meghan as couple, i Always knew of Harry he was into women who aren't from royal/upper class world, and Harry living in glamorous hollywood, good for him too

would they have been aware there being drones in LA, yes but do they have rights to sue, yes they do

invasion of privacy, no matter where is just wrong and against the law
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if some were doubting that from me, i personally like Harry/Meghan as couple, i Always knew of Harry he was into women who aren't from royal/upper class world, and Harry living in glamorous hollywood, good for him too

would they have been aware there being drones in LA, yes but do they have rights to sue, yes they do

invasion of privacy, no matter where is just wrong and against the law
Yes and I guess you 'like' them rather than 'love' them. Just like I 'dislike' but dont 'hate' them.
Harrys previous girlfriends have come from well established families so you are wrong there...
...also no one has said that drones are acceptable and that they dont have a right to sue...
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As if Meghan should have rights like everyone else though....
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Yes and I guess you 'like' them rather than 'love' them. Just like I 'dislike' but dont 'hate' them.
Harrys previous girlfriends have come from well established families so you are wrong there...
...also no one has said that drones are acceptable and that they dont have a right to sue...
yeah ok fair enough, also even though Thomas Markle's personality i don't like, i do like his work as camera guy for Married with Children
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