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BBC on Holiday

Ridge on SkyNewsHD working


Jon Ashworth Shadow Labour Health Sec.
on now

Also a recorded interview with Blair.

Dominic Raab MP
Layla Moran LibDem MP

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If anyone has Covid-19 test
it needs to be done within 24hours
or it is useless.

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Today 14 Deaths

UK Total Covid-19 deaths : 45,752

747 news cases

Ch4HDnews

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Covid -19 Deaths above 10,000


146,754 USA deaths
86,449 Brazil deaths
45,837 United Kingdom deaths
43,680 Mexico deaths
35,107 Italy deaths
32,063 India deaths
30,195 France deaths
28,432 Spain deaths
17,843 Peru deaths
15,700 Iran deaths
13,249 Russia death


Data : https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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[Cherie]

'Travellers return angry and CONFUSED'

where's the confusion, stay at home for 14 days in case you brought it back...how difficult is that to understand, you left the country in the middle of a pandemic to go on holiday, you knew the risks, and if you didn't then more fool you

[Samm]

I’m sorry but this whole spain outrage is ridiculous. did anyone expect to have a un-distributed holiday this year? lol. fair enough if you go away to another country for a break i’ve thought about it but do not expect there to be some restrictions or measures that could come into place.

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it's one thing i think the government have got right

I would rather they err on the side of caution and potentially stop thousands coming back into the UK with covid. I thought they caved in to the airlines much to quickly in the first place.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

'Travellers return angry and CONFUSED'

where's the confusion, stay at home for 14 days in case you brought it back...how difficult is that to understand, you left the country in the middle of a pandemic to go on holiday, you knew the risks, and if you didn't then more fool you

Absolutely right.

Things can change in an instant as we saw when Leicester was put fast back into a lockdown.

I understand people wanting holidays and to physically see relatives and friends abroad.
However, it's just so uncertain and delays and sudden changes are likely.
So in my view, best to hang on longer for hopefully less uncertain times.

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I agree that going abroad right now is an absolutely flabbergasting decision and hugely risky... However, I do have some sympathy for people because the government and press made active efforts to make it seem like it was OK or even safe.

I know most of us here are a bit more discerning, but sadly, there are millions who will take the official line (and what they see in the tabloids) as gospel and not really do any further digging.

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People from abroad brought it here in the first place, why would people just do that all over again? No sympathy for these people at all, actually most of them seem really annoying anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53541503

There's a guy here who says people are much better in Spain with the virus, while also blaming British people in Spain for spreading it. Feels contradictory while also being the kind of self-hating on British people that I've really had enough of as well. If some people want to move to Spain, ok, let them keep there.

Originally Posted by arista

Covid -19 Deaths above 10,000


146,754 USA deaths
86,449 Brazil deaths
45,837 United Kingdom deaths
43,680 Mexico deaths
35,107 Italy deaths
32,063 India deaths
30,195 France deaths
28,432 Spain deaths
17,843 Peru deaths
15,700 Iran deaths
13,249 Russia death

The problem with death figures is that nearly everyone counts them differently, Mexico is about double what they say and Spanish deaths are now thought to be in the 40s.

[arista]

Originally Posted by starry

People from abroad brought it here in the first place, why would people just do that all over again? No sympathy for these people at all, actually most of them seem really annoying anyway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53541503

There's a guy here who says people are much better in Spain with the virus, while also blaming British people in Spain for spreading it. Feels contradictory while also being the kind of self-hating on British people that I've really had enough of as well. If some people want to move to Spain, ok, let them keep there.



The problem with death figures is that nearly everyone counts them differently, Mexico is about double what they say and Spanish deaths are now thought to be in the 40s.

Yes its a problem.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by starry

The problem with death figures is that nearly everyone counts them differently, Mexico is about double what they say and Spanish deaths are now thought to be in the 40s.

Some countries simply don't have the healthcare infrastructure to record all of the deaths properly. For example, Brazil is beautiful in places but it's a country of over 200 million people, with a huge number having no access to decent standards of living or healthcare. Honestly I would suspect that the true numbers in Brazil match the numbers in the US - if not exceeding them.

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Simon Calder on ITV1HD this morning
said if you go from Spain to France
it means you return from France to England via Train.

Sounds Dodgy.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Simon Calder on ITV1HD this morning
said if you go from Spain to France
it means you return from France to England via Train.

Sounds Dodgy.

Well this is obviously the issue with air bridges and restrictions in continental Europe; you can fly to a country with an "air bridge", then travel freely between any country whose borders are open, so long as you return via a "bridge" country. Likewise if you find yourself in a country that ends up off the safe list, but it's possible to travel to a country that IS on the list, you can just come back via there.

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Vietnam wants to get rid of all tourists in its country, given they had given the country a rise in new cases

400 new cases, and all of them come from tourism, while it had been several months now since the last local case

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it's equally possible that people don't isolate for 14 days. It's working on a system of trust. In those circumstances people can always get around rules and they always will until we become a police state

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Covid-19 is "easily the most severe" global health emergency the World Health Organization (WHO) has ever declared, the agency has said.

Speaking at a press conference in Geneva, the head of the WHO, Dr Tedros Ghebreyesus, said that almost 16 million cases have been reported to the UN body, along with 640,000 deaths.

"The pandemic continues to accelerate," he said, adding: "In the past six weeks the total number of cases has roughly doubled."

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No **** Sherlock