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Old 13-08-2020, 07:00 PM   #26
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A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.
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Old 13-08-2020, 07:00 PM   #27
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Let me ask you this, do you believe viruses can enter the body through the eyes?

Would it be fair to suggest that if they can, then covering just your mouth and nose isn't really protecting you?
thats why they have visors
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Old 13-08-2020, 07:02 PM   #28
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There are medical grade masks available.
Even so, its been well published that mask wearing in the general population is needed to protect others from the wearer. If everyone wore them, that would protect everyone equally
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thats why they have visors
I'm not talking about medical professionals. Sheriff is saying that we wear masks to protect ourselves, whereas the rest of us are saying that we wear masks to protect others, and rely on them to wear them in return, to protect us.
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A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.
Your PoV doesn't counteract science though. All you need to do is google it.
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Let me ask you this, do you believe viruses can enter the body through the eyes?

Would it be fair to suggest that if they can, then covering just your mouth and nose isn't really protecting you?
Different viruses and disease attack in different ways and yes some enter through the eyes skin, by contact and by eating a disease animal or food containing a parasit.
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masks are not worn by surgeons to protect themselves during operations, it's to protect the patient from bacteria etc while they are under the knife. Those are medical masks
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Old 13-08-2020, 07:07 PM   #33
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Different viruses and disease attack in different ways and yes some enter through the eyes skin, by contact and by eating a disease animal or food containing a parasit.
So... what's the next logical step if we know covid can enter through the eyes, and we're only wearing mouth and nose coverings?
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‘We don’t believe in that sort of stuff’ yikes
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They were sitting outside, whatever their views are on wearing masks they do not need to wear one outdoors
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Yes. if you wear a stab vest it’s it’s not protect you but the other person that’s not wearing one.
What a stupid analogy
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Old 13-08-2020, 08:11 PM   #37
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Should have done more than made them apologise, that's assault. Also, even if he was inside he would still have to take his mask off to eat, I don't get their logic
I don't think the video shows the whole story tbh, the guy with the woman says at the start that the two filming called them "pussies" for wearing face masks (before the video convientely starts to make it look like they were randomly approached). I think the couple got baited and stupidly gave them the reaction they were seeking.
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A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.
It is not airborne. It is spread through cough/sneeze/saliva droplets. The mask is to stop those from being spread around from an infected person, as the droplets are caught in the mask.

It's not a "point of view"... these are the medical facts behind the advice to wear masks .
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I don't think the video shows the whole story tbh, the guy with the woman says at the start that the two filming called them "pussies" for wearing face masks (before the video convientely starts to make it look like they were randomly approached). I think the couple got baited and stupidly gave them the reaction they were seeking.
I think it does show the whole story which is why I'm bewildered about anyone really taking either side. The guys sitting down quite clearly express that they have a "different view" on wearing masks and don't wear them... not just while eating. The guy who goes on the attack also starts punching the boyfriend when it was clearly the girl who threw the coffee... he flips back and forth between saying it was the guy (for the benefit of the 911 operator on the phone, I assume) and admitting that he knows it was the girl - which we can clearly see in the video - and stating that he attacked the boyfriend because he's not going to go straight for the girl... and acts like this is normal logic. Bizarre.

On the other hand... the couple have 1) taken it upon themselves to police others (which is fine, but you only need to make one comment)... 2) Thrown coffee over someone which yes is assault in the first place and then 3) the boyfriend called in the cops when - although nothing justifies a physical attack in retaliation - it was clearly his girlfriend who escalated the fight from words to physical actions. I can only assume that they didn't know they were being filmed and just planned to flat out lie about that. She tried to claim that the coffee spilled on her boyfriend during the punching and wasn't thrown.


So yeah I think the video shows it all and I think they're ALL a bunch of arseholes, in different ways.
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Old 13-08-2020, 11:22 PM   #40
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You people are hilarious.

So why did we have doctors and nurses pleading and begging the government for masks to protect themselves from catching Covid from the patients they were treating.

They were not on the news every day saying we need the masks to protect the patients it was to protect themselves.
They were dying from not having ppe and catching it from the patients

But google says dismiss what medical professionals were saying.
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Old 13-08-2020, 11:28 PM   #41
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They lost all credibility when they went to attack the person who didn't throw the coffee sorry
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Perhaps because they are literally in close contact with people already confirmed to have the disease on an overwhelmingly regular basis call people hilarious because you can't grasp basic science
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your girlfriend throws hot coffee at someone and you get punched just go home and lick your wounds why stand around calling the police
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...the way the guy said ‘there I’ve photographed your face, this is going all over social media now...’...or similar words../...gives me a feeling that this was all set up...the fact that he had the body camera all set up in the first place...which apparently he had because ‘they’re Maga/Trump supporters, which tends to bring them regular abuse’.../his words again or similar words...

...they didn’t press charges...they wanted the world to know/the whole of social media to know and see the face of the guy who was the partner of the woman who assaulted them with hot coffee and the guy who was assaulted by one of them because he had a partner who assaulted etc...they were so pleased that the police were called and that they had that body cam all set up and everyone could see the truth now, that coup,e would be exposed to the world...but they didn’t want to press charges...?...it’s all a bit dodgy and none of them looked good...maybe all four of them knew each other, who knows...
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Perhaps because they are literally in close contact with people already confirmed to have the disease on an overwhelmingly regular basis call people hilarious because you can't grasp basic science
I can grasp basic science, you like many others have trouble understanding ppe.

With Covid the use of masks was to protect the person wearing them.

The difference between wearing a mask in a operating theatre is clear to me.

The government said in daily updates when challenged by doctors nurses and and the press we are doing everything we can to get the ppe needed to protect the nhs.

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your girlfriend throws hot coffee at someone and you get punched just go home and lick your wounds why stand around calling the police
Because they thought that because the guy that got coffee thrown over him punched the girlfriends guy, he was going to jail.

People not wanting to press charges for fights like this are more common than you think.
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...it’s the difference between PPE face masks where the purpose is to protect and face coverings which don’t protect, but evidence suggests that wearing one may protect others though... if someone was infected but didn’t realise as sometimes people have no symptoms etc...a face covering or the type of mask that many of us have are not PPE and not made to protect the wearer as surgical/medical masks are...
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So why did we have doctors and nurses pleading and begging the government for masks to protect themselves from catching Covid from the patients they were treating.
Because they offer some protection to the wearer as part of a full PPE kit - just not as much as having the infected person wear a mask does.

I mean you can even just use simple basic common sense here. If a mask protects the wearer by stopping infected droplets entering their mouth and nose, why WOULDN'T a mask stop those same droplets EXITING the mouth and nose of an infected person?
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...honestly...I just started to read a Reddit thread...and I know, her throwing the coffee was awful, regardless of any potential ‘baiting’ or not etc...but the ‘hate’ and nasty comments directed at her are absolutely disgusting...I’m pretty sure that these two guys would be quite aware that, that would happen and I tended it to happen against the couple when they said...’let me photograph your face, you’re going on every social media site...’...they really are quite awful people and that guy seemed less interested in whether his friend was scalded by apparent hot coffee...than he was with the satisfaction of knowing the ‘hate’ this couple would get...
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