[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I actually agree, suffering racist (or any other) abuse doesn't excuse violent response and I think that's what we're being asked to accept; that it changes the game, that it makes it something that should be accepted, because of exceptional circumstances.

I can appreciate that it explains the violent response, and with a little prompting from Kizzy I can even appreciate that it explains why some people are quicker to want to accept/excuse/applaud the use of violence...

But when you boil it right down, no one has the "right" to retaliate with violence, it is not and will never be the right or excusable choice (even if you can empathise and offer understanding for it) and it should never be applauded or encouraged. Even if you can understand why some people might be tempted to encourage and applaud it, people shouldn't feel "shoved out" of the ability to say that that too is the wrong choice and not the right way forward.

The response that "privileged people can't tell others that applauding violence isn't the way" is nonsensical and dangerous

And you were doing so well ..it's OK to suggest applauding violence isn't the way, however your problem was to attempt to presume why they thought that way.. and worse, what they should do in those circumstances instead.