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Crimson Dynamo · 18-09-2020, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

What is there to investigate? Some black people did a dance about current world issues and racists complained. Case closed.

Glad to see ITV and OFCOM both throwing the complaints in the bin where they belong.

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

They can dance about what they like tbh

If people don't like it they can not buy tickets to their live shows, and if enough people don't like it then tv shows can stop booking them. But if enough people do like them, the tv show will lose out on viewers.

Similar to how some bookstores are daft enough to not stock JK Rowling books in case it sends someone into a spiral of despair

If we can expect transpeople to be a grow up about a wad of paper with printing on it, I'm sure we can cope with dancers doing a dance ... no matter how daft it may be.

Crimson Dynamo · 18-09-2020, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They can dance about what they like tbh

If people don't like it they can not buy tickets to their live shows, and if enough people don't like it then tv shows can stop booking them. But if enough people do like them, the tv show will lose out on viewers.

Similar to how some bookstores are daft enough to not stock JK Rowling books in case it sends someone into a spiral of despair

If we can expect transpeople to be a grow up about a wad of paper with printing on it, I'm sure we can cope with dancers doing a dance ... no matter how daft it may be.

sure and people can tell them they are woke plonkers virtue signalling into an extreme left echo chamber

we love free speech

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

sure and people can tell them they are woke plonkers virtue signalling into an extreme left echo chamber

we love free speech

Yup, I totally support people expressing their views - how kind of me

Beso · 18-09-2020, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

What is there to investigate? Some black people did a dance about current world issues and racists complained. Case closed.

Glad to see ITV and OFCOM both throwing the complaints in the bin where they belong.

It's more about the white performer..

Because they had black youths being persecuted in the dance routine it was saying that black youths are peraecuted...

May be true me be not?

But they had a white cop performer.. so that's saying white cops are bad to the viewer..

And it's not exactly a topic for prime time saturday night viewing anyway is it? The manslaughter of someone...

Crimson Dynamo · 18-09-2020, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

It's more about the white performer..

Because they had black youths being persecuted in the dance routine it was saying that black youths are peraecuted...

May be true me be not?

But they had a white cop performer.. so that's saying white cops are bad to the viewer..

And it's not exactly a topic for prime time saturday night viewing anyway is it? The manslaughter of someone...

I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

Rob! · 18-09-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

If you can't tell the difference between a real video of someone dying and a dance then there's really no helping you.

Crimson Dynamo · 18-09-2020, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.

if you have evidence it was racism post it here:

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.

How do you know it was a racist attack? The cop was restraining a violent and struggling man who had (allegedly) recently necked a bunch of drugs, where is the evidence his skin colour had anything to do with it?

Rob! · 18-09-2020, 07:11 PM

Show me proof the dance was worth complaining about.

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

Show me proof the dance was worth complaining about.

I don't need to because I never claimed it was worth complaining about

whereas you did claim the cop was racist without any real proof.

Crimson Dynamo · 18-09-2020, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't need to because I never claimed it was worth complaining about

whereas you did claim the cop was racist without any real proof.

Rob! · 18-09-2020, 07:16 PM

I don't need to provide evidence to argue with your ignorance. The world's reaction to it shows it was racism as well as the fact that the cop was charged with MURDER?

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

I don't need to provide evidence to argue with your ignorance. The world's reaction to it shows it was racism as well as the fact that the cop was charged with MURDER?

I never said he wasn't a murderer. Do you think every murderer is a racist? People's reactions mean zip, as virtually any election will tell you. Where's the actual evidence the death was race related rather than circumstantial?

Rob! · 18-09-2020, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I never said he wasn't a murderer. Do you think every murderer is a racist? People's reactions mean zip, as virtually any election will tell you. Where's the actual evidence the death was race related rather than circumstantial?

Oh, so you think that the fact that he was black was just a happy coincidence?

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

Oh, so you think that the fact that he was black was just a happy coincidence?

I think he was resisting arrest and fighting a cop, and had just overdosed on drugs, and had been saying he couldn't breathe before he was restrained. What part of that do you think is race related?

Rob! · 18-09-2020, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I think he was resisting arrest and fighting a cop, and had just overdosed on drugs, and had been saying he couldn't breathe before he was restrained. What part of that do you think is race related?

You’ve just admitted he was murdered...what do you think his killer was, just an overzealous vigilante?

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

You’ve just admitted he was murdered...what do you think his killer was, just an overzealous vigilante?

I think he was a cop.

Liam- · 18-09-2020, 07:31 PM

Seeing as black people in America are 3x more likely to die at the hands of the police than white people, I think it is intrinsically a race issue when a black person is murdered by an officer

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Seeing as black people in America are 3x more likely to die at the hands of the police, I think it is intrinsically a race issue when a black person is murdered by an officer

Under a quarter pf people killed by the police in the USA were black last year

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and what does that have to do with George Floyd? He only represents himself. His killer isn't all cops.

Liam- · 18-09-2020, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Under a quarter pf people killed by the police in the USA were black last year

Spoiler:

and what does that have to do with George Floyd? He only represents himself. His killer isn't all cops.

You realise that graph proves my point right?

Of course more white people are killed, because there are more of them, a quarter of the annual police killings belonging to a 13% minority of the population means they’re killed at a higher, disproportionate rate

Oliver_W · 18-09-2020, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

You realise that graph proves my point right?

Of course more white people are killed, because there are more of them, 25% of the annual police killings belonging to a 13% minority of the population means they’re killed at a higher, disproportionate rate

Because they're also over-represented in crime - who do you think is more likely to get arrested, people who do or do not commit crimes?