[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Eight patients die following Covid-19 outbreak at hospital...







Eight people have died at a hospital in South Wales after 82 cases of coronavirus were identified there.



Temporary restrictions to services have now been put in place at Royal Glamorgan Hospital in Llantrisant, including suspending planned surgery, with the exception of a small number of urgent cancer cases.



On Wednesday, the restrictions were brought in by Cwm Taf University Health Board at 2pm in an effort to help manage the outbreak, which has been linked to transmission within the hospital site.



Six patients are currently in intensive care at the hospital, which is in Rhondda Cynon Taf – one of the areas of Wales subjected to local lockdown restrictions.



On Wednesday, Welsh education minister Kirsty Williams said the Welsh Government was working with the health board and Public Health Wales to address the “issues” which have given rise to the outbreak.



She told the Welsh Government Covid-19 press briefing: “We understand that this is a serious situation and how upsetting it is for all those involved.



“We are working with the local health authority’s senior management team and Public Health Wales to understand and, crucially, address the issues that have arisen at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital to bring that outbreak under control and learn the lessons of that so they can be applied in other healthcare settings.”



She added: “The situation is a worrying one, and all steps are being taken to protect existing patients, staff, and to ensure that those residents that were due to leave the hospital are directed to appropriate care in other hospitals in the near vicinity.”



The rise in cases at the hospital come one week after the health board said 34 cases of Covid-19 had been recorded across two of its wards, linked mainly to transmission within the site.



In a statement on Wednesday, the health board said that despite teams working to manage the outbreak, “additional cases linked to transmission within the hospital” had been confirmed in recent days.



Paul Mears, chief executive of the health board, said: “We recognise the concern that these temporary changes will cause and would like to assure our patients and communities that managing this outbreak is our key priority.



“Our teams continue to work to take all necessary measures to achieve this and we have taken a range of swift and decisive actions to try to manage this outbreak, which include immediate closure of affected wards, risk assessments of affected and at-risk wards, reviews of infection prevention and control measures and their implementation, increased testing of healthcare staff and testing of all hospital admissions.



“These decisions have not been taken lightly, and we understand that they will impact our patients, their families, our staff and partner organisations.



“However, the safety of our patients and staff is of the utmost importance and we believe this is the right course of action, based on the professional advice given to us.”



Adult patients requiring an emergency admission following assessment will either be taken to the Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend, the Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr Tydfil, or the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff.



The emergency department at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will remain open for walk-in patients and those who can be treated within the department.



Welsh Ambulance Service patients, excluding children, will be diverted to the other hospitals.



The self-contained paediatric wards at the hospital will remain open, while the Tirion birthing centre is due to reopen on October 5.



A health board spokesman said it is working closely with Public Health Wales to increase the capacity and speed of testing and results for both patients and staff.



“These changes will be reviewed on a daily basis and decisions to restart emergency admissions at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will be made in conjunction with Public Health Wales,” he said.



Andrew RT Davies, shadow health minister for the Welsh Conservatives, called on the Welsh Government to explore using field hospitals and other health facilities to alleviate pressure on the Royal Glamorgan.



He added: “This is very concerning, particularly as many of the additional cases are linked to transmission within the hospital, and so questions over processes and protocols must be asked.”

8 people die of Covid in the same hospital on the same day .. yet still millions believe that this is all made up and they just put Covid on the death certificate ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Nations above 10,000 Covid-19 Deaths


206,436 USA deaths
142,921 Brazil deaths
97,497 India deaths
77,163 Mexico deaths
42,162 United Kingdom deaths
35,894 Italy deaths
32,396 Peru deaths
31,971 France deaths
31,791 Spain deaths
26,169 Iran deaths
25,828 Colombia deaths
20,630 Russia deaths
16,667 South Africa deaths
16,519 Argentina deaths
12,741 Chile deaths
11,355 Ecuador deaths
10,740 Indonesia deaths
10,001 Belgium deaths



Pro Data :
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!


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[arista]

Nations /Islands with No deaths



0 Bhutan deaths
0 Cambodia deaths
0 Dominica deaths
0 Eritrea deaths
0 Grenada deaths
0 Holy See deaths
0 Laos deaths
0 Mongolia deaths
0 Saint Kitts and Nevis deaths
0 Saint Lucia deaths
0 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines deaths
0 Seychelles deaths
0 Timor-Leste deaths





https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[joeysteele]

Well the press conference today was more a waste of time.
Little new was learned.

The only message I got from it was what I already had pretty much worked out as it wasn't hard to.
When the 2 bookends stated.
Things were going in the wrong direction.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zizu

8 people die of Covid in the same hospital on the same day .. yet still millions believe that this is all made up and they just put Covid on the death certificate ..


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There has been cases of that though.

[Jessica.]

Very sad to see that the UK still hasn't pulled itself out of the mess of so many cases and deaths.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There has been cases of that though.

Not a million worldwide though


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!


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Correct.

In relation to deaths to population.
We are likely the worst in the World, even on the reduced number of deaths figures the government brought into being recently.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Correct.

In relation to deaths to population.
We are likely the worst in the World, even on the reduced number of deaths figures the government brought into being recently.

Based on the numbers given on this thread, UK and US rates are pretty much identical at 63 deaths per 100k population. Italy is almost identical at 62/100k and Spain is slightly higher at 68/100k.

Sooo we're not even the "worst" hit in Europe, however we are one of a cluster of countries with very similar numbers that have been worse hit than others.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Based on the numbers given on this thread, UK and US rates are pretty much identical at 63 deaths per 100k population. Italy is almost identical at 62/100k and Spain is slightly higher at 68/100k.

Sooo we're not even the "worst" hit in Europe, however we are one of a cluster of countries with very similar numbers that have been worse hit than others.

Agreed.

However, I am suspicious of our total figure anyway.
Since the amending of its construction.

Which is why I qualified with ' likely' not certainly.

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[The Spanish government has ordered a
lockdown in the capital Madrid and surrounding
areas badly affected by coronavirus after a rise in cases.
Under the new restrictions, residents will
not be allowed to leave the area unless they
have to make an essential journey.
However, Madrid's regional government
says the lockdown is not legally valid.
Greater Madrid accounts for more than a third
of the 133,604 cases diagnosed in Spain
over the past two weeks.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54364015

[arista]

[Coronavirus: MPs promised vote on new rules 'wherever possible']

These MP's wanting to Debate a Measure are fools
they would slow it down
Costing lives.

[Hancock MP warned that some urgent regulations could not be held up.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54361294

[bitontheslide]

They could be transparent about it and say these are the measures we will implement if such and such happens, allowing plenty of debate though. It's to easy to say we may not have the time to discuss it

[Ammi]

...Christmas Pudding being stock piled..?...on average and generalising, obviously...how many Christmas Puddings would a family eat...?...

[MTVN]

The growth in cases of coronavirus may be slowing down, the largest study of the infection in England suggests.

A team at Imperial College London analysed samples from 84,000 people chosen at random from across the country.

They said the R number, the virus's reproduction number, appears to have fallen since measures including the "rule of six" were introduced.

However, they warn cases are high, with one in every 200 people infected.

The React study is highly influential, both due to its size and because it gives an up-to-date picture of how the virus is spreading. The last samples used in the analysis were collected as recently as Saturday.

It was the previous React report that found infections were doubling every seven to eight days in late August and early September.

This, in turn, led to warnings that there could be 50,000 cases a day by mid-October if that pattern continued.

Then the research group estimated the R number - the number of people each infected person is passing the virus onto, on average - was 1.7.

The latest analysis, of swab samples collected between 19 and 26 September, suggests the R number has fallen to around 1.1 - although the precise figure is uncertain.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54366478

[bitontheslide]

it would be great if the measures are having an effect, but the rate needs to be below 1 across the country before we can consider things under control.

We only had to listen to the 2 men yesterday to understand the seriousness of the current situation