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reece(: · 20-10-2020, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t know what to say about someone who would do that to the people he’s serving...is this to make some kind of point with Andy Burnham...?...he’s prepared to ‘punish’ and put people into poverty...

If this is how he negotiates with the EU there’s no wonder we are heading for no deal.

I just don’t understand how punishing Manchester makes him look favourable from any side of the political spectrum.

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:51 PM

...how is he ever going to keep the public onside through the restrictions if he’s knowingly putting them into poverty..

Denver · 20-10-2020, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Who did you vote for? Because you were a tory in the threads.

Labour offered out of control borrowing which we can't afford to do

joeysteele · 20-10-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

....horrendous is not even a word that could describe him...

I'm starting to think there's not a word low enough or bad enough to describe him as Prime Minister Ammi.

Yet in they come to defend him, no matter the hardship he will inflict on those at the lowest end of the scales.

It reveals a lot that.

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(:

If this is how he negotiates with the EU there’s no wonder we are heading for no deal.

I just don’t understand how punishing Manchester makes him look favourable from any side of the political spectrum.

...I’ve never liked him but I’m completely stunned that he can do this and then expect a country to get through what it needs to ...

The Slim Reaper · 20-10-2020, 04:53 PM

Burnham gave him a detailed costings, it wasn't jus a case of "you wanted this, but will you accept this?"

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Burnham gave him a detailed costings, it wasn't jus a case of "you wanted this, but will you accept this?"

...and now he’s saying that Burnham knows his door is always open for discussion after cutting to less than a bone...there is nothing more to take and strip away so what is he expecting in his open doorway...he’s so disingenuous...

Liam- · 20-10-2020, 04:55 PM

You sound surprised that he’s a twat?

The Slim Reaper · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver

Labour offered out of control borrowing which we can't afford to do

Tory talking point. It wasn't uncontrolled, and not sure if you've noticed, but over the last decade the tories have been borrowing uncontrollably running up debts and deficits and giving us nothing but austerity with our money, in return.

joeysteele · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver

Labour offered out of control borrowing which we can't afford to do

We've done that with covid now as to borrowing.

Labour would have had the same issues.
The Labour manifesto would have gone out the window to have to deal with this virus.

Although those weakest and on lowest incomes plus the elderly I believe, would have been more priority as to protection and support.

Cherry Christmas · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's NOT playing politics trying to protect peoples incomes as much as is needed to be when they're forced not to work even if they want to.

You just quoted the 2 lower areas of the Country.
Very selective.

Im quoting what Stephen Powys just said, what do you mean by lower area?

67 per cent plus universal credit top up is 80 per cent according to Bojo...what do you make it?

Brother Leon · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

There seems to be surprise at this. Enjoy 5 more years of being **** on unless you are one of the elite and rich of the country.

Ammi · 20-10-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

You sound surprised that he’s a twat?

...no, just didn’t realise and underestimated the level of contempt and callousness...

Smithy · 20-10-2020, 04:57 PM

Everyone acting surprised that the tories want poor northern people dead???

That’s how it’s always been

You’re stupid if you ever thought otherwise

Holly Christmas · 20-10-2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...no, just didn’t realise and underestimated the level of contempt and callousness...

You and me both Ammi.

joeysteele · 20-10-2020, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Im quoting what Stephen Powys just said, what do you mean by lower area?

67 per cent plus universal credit top up us 80 per cent according to Bojo...what do you make it?

Well little point in answering as you seem to know anyway.

I think you'll find for some that will be the case not all.
Never mind who cares about some low paid workers losing income.
It doesn't matter to some I guess.

Nicky91 · 20-10-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

There seems to be surprise at this. Enjoy 5 more years of being **** on unless you are one of the elite and rich of the country.

what a mess

Cherry Christmas · 20-10-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Burnham gave him a detailed costings, it wasn't jus a case of "you wanted this, but will you accept this?"

I heard on a news report earlier Burnham started at 90 m and was happy to negotiate down to 65 hard to know who to believe in all honesty

bots · 20-10-2020, 05:02 PM

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount for business support as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

Cherry Christmas · 20-10-2020, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well little point in answering as you seem to know anyway.

I think you'll find for some that will be the case not all.
Never mind who cares about some low paid workers losing income.
It doesn't matter to some I guess.

I don’t know, just quoting what was said in the briefing.

Cherry Christmas · 20-10-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

While the ICU beds are full...they will have to start sending patients around the country soon

The Slim Reaper · 20-10-2020, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are being fed a false story ... surprise surprise

The 20 million is a separate fund for track and trace, which they were always going to get

Boris stated several times that Manchester would get the same proportionate amount as other areas like liverpool which puts it in line for 60 million .... Because Burnham hasn't agreed to that figure, they can't say that is the figure Manchester are receiving

Burnham is playing games

Burnham didn't know anything about the £20m figure until it was revealed to him as he was about to start a press conference, so he wasn't playing games. if the serco test and trace is being offered nationally anyway, it seems inconceivable that it would need to be announced with a monetary figure attached, so one side is definitely playing games. Looks like Boris is about to start another climb down and needs something to pin it on.