[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

I’m just not sure I’d completely trust another country’s vaccine... hell I don’t even trust our government ( wether it’s the tories or labour)


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

I hope they're planning on giving it out for free

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m just not sure I’d completely trust another country’s vaccine... hell I don’t even trust our government ( wether it’s the tories or labour)


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Most of the standard vaccines (childhood vax schedule, travel vaccinations etc.) were not developed in the UK. I understand not trusting the Chinese government, but I don't think a vaccine has to be specifically UK-developed to be trustworthy.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Most of the standard vaccines (childhood vax schedule, travel vaccinations etc.) were not developed in the UK. I understand not trusting the Chinese government, but I don't think a vaccine has to be specifically UK-developed to be trustworthy.

i am not taking any vaccine myself, do you take vaccines for regular flu NO, so why should we for some non-existent virus (which i am not in the risk group for)

[bitontheslide]

every vaccine has to gain approval in each country before its approved for use by the public in that country. That's why the Astra Zenika is going through clinical trials throughout the world. For a chinese vaccine to be approved for use in the UK, it would need to go through the process too, so .... no drug should be able to get to the public before its known to be safe

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i am not taking any vaccine myself, do you take vaccines for regular flu NO, so why should we for some non-existent virus (which i am not in the risk group for)

Vulnerable people/healthcare workers etc do take vaccines for flu (and anyone can pay for one privately if they want one) ... But anyway, it's highly unlikely that Covid vaccines will be rolled out for less-at-risk categories (under 40's with no underlying conditions) for a long time, if ever. There are limitations on how quickly they can manufacture vaccine doses once/if one is developed so they will be on a priority basis for a long time. Full coverage isn't necessarily required for herd immunity, also.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

every vaccine has to gain approval in each country before its approved for use by the public in that country. That's why the Astra Zenika is going through clinical trials throughout the world. For a chinese vaccine to be approved for use in the UK, it would need to go through the process too, so .... no drug should be able to get to the public before its known to be safe

As safe as possible*, there is no such thing as a 100% safe drug or vaccine.

[arista]

Patients in hospital
7,850

Patients in ventilator beds
743

19,790 tested for Covid-19 today

151 have died today


44,896 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

every vaccine has to gain approval in each country before its approved for use by the public in that country. That's why the Astra Zenika is going through clinical trials throughout the world. For a chinese vaccine to be approved for use in the UK, it would need to go through the process too, so .... no drug should be able to get to the public before its known to be safe

I saw a program suggesting vaccines usually take around 5 years + to develop and properly test ... I worry that they’re cutting sooo many corners to get them in circulation ( so to speak lol) .




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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I saw a program suggesting vaccines usually take around 5 years + to develop and properly test ... I worry that they’re cutting sooo many corners to get them in circulation ( so to speak lol) .




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they are being fast tracked, but the chemistry behind them is proven over decades so that reduces risk significantly. I do agree though that getting the shot will require a leap of faith

[Nicky91]

idk which asian country, but a friend told me, one asian country has less than 4.000 cases now

[reece(:]

I read that Tier 4 is being considered for a November implementation.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I read that Tier 4 is being considered for a November implementation.

What the hell does Tier 4 entail ??


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[parmnion]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I read that Tier 4 is being considered for a November implementation.

Yes..on the 2nd,

My week off, goodbye scotland

[Vanessa]

My sister just told me that in Italy bars and restaurants have to close at 6 pm.
That's way too early.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What the hell does Tier 4 entail ??


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Discussions are underway among officials in Whitehall and local authorities for a "plan B" to drive Covid-19 infection rates down if the current three-tiered lockdown system fails to work, iNews reported.

Under tier three, pubs and bars that do not serve substantial meals are required to close, as are casinos, adult gaming centres, and soft play centres.

Non-essential shops can remain open under tier three restrictions.

Extra tier three-plus or potential tier four restrictions could mean restaurants and non-essential shops are forced to close.

Schools will not be permitted to close under any potential tier-four measures.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/130188...er-4-lockdown/

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[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

My sister just told me that in Italy bars and restaurants have to close at 6 pm.
That's way too early.

Look they had it worse than us.
They must be far more strict again
in order to keep so many more alive.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes..on the 2nd,

My week off, goodbye scotland

On the 2nd of Nov
Scotland goes to Tier 5

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

On the 2nd of Nov

Scotland goes to Tier 5

Tier 5 !!!

Does that limit how much oxygen we breath in ??


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[Zizu]

We’ve got flamin fireworks going off near us .. feels like we’re under attack !


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Tier 5 !!!

Does that limit how much oxygen we breath in ??


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From the 2nd of November
Scotland goes Crazy with the new 5 Tiers

All on this link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54661494

[Strictly Jake]

Schools not permitted to close even under tier 4????

Why????

Do they think pupils and staff are indestructible. Because my daughter is still isolating after a supply teacher tested postive

Also you should see the amount of school kids that get on buses etc at home time, no regard for anyone else on the bus whatsover.

Then you think of the amount of parents on the school run.

All these parents work with a lot of other people

Thats a lot of intermingling "bubbles"

Your not closing schools?? Dont bother with a tier 4!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Schools not permitted to close even under tier 4????

Why????

Do they think pupils and staff are indestructible. Because my daughter is still isolating after a supply teacher tested postive

Also you should see the amount of school kids that get on buses etc at home time, no regard for anyone else on the bus whatsover.

Then you think of the amount of parents on the school run.

All these parents work with a lot of other people

Thats a lot of intermingling "bubbles"

Your not closing schools?? Dont bother with a tier 4!

I heard a worrying stat this morning .. supposedly the infection rate in schools has risen by SEVENTEEN fold in the 6 weeks 1st September to 14th October .


If doubling is a 100% increase ... times by 17 sounds horrifying .

Supposedly the schools want to move to some kind of rota so at any one time - half of pupils are being taught in school whilst the other half will be taught online ..


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