[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no need to get personal joey, you clearly just dont understand what the purpose is of a lockdown

Saving the nhs isn’t the only function of a lockdown, so maybe it’s you that doesn’t quite understand

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Come on, Boris. Strictly is on tonight

It is Delayed
can not go on BBC2HD
As Rugby starts 7:30PM

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh for goodness sake.

How many deaths have happened of others loved ones since he was advised to do a circuit breaker on 21st September.

He was told on the 8th of this month.
Stronger measures were needed.
3 weeks ago.

He's procrastinated again, as he did in March.
Costing others loved ones lives over the last 6 weeks.

Insisting he'd never do another national lockdown.
Now he's being likely dragged kicking and screaming to do it now.

Blind support for total and utter dangerous as to others lives incompetence is not admirable.
Not in my book anyway.

They key to this is to turn all the field hospital into covid quarantine hospitals for ALL the badly infected patients. This keeps ALL covid out of the main hospitals. Transfer the staff needed from main hospitals to these field hospitals. Thus allowing main hospitals to be covid free and actually carry out other life saving treatments. It will also reduce the infections in patients and staff and less staff will be off sick and self isolating. as usual the brainless media sheep dont mention this, just as they havent mentioned closing the chanel tunnel

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

in fairness the purpose of the lockdown is always to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and we are not overwhelmed yet

...but the NHS is about to be overwhelmed is what was said and why the lockdown has been advised for a few weeks and Boris resisted again...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Saving the nhs isn’t the only function of a lockdown, so maybe it’s you that doesn’t quite understand

Reducing the burden on the NHS was the main reason for the last lockdown and according to the data guy on sky news not 20 mins ago this lockdown is for the same reason, theyve apparently been shown new data saying the infection rate will rise a whole lot more than previously expected within 8 weeks ie xmas, causing the NHS to buckle

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Josy

I agree

Keeping the schools open is just stupidity

...they’re still trying to suggest a one week open/one week closed possibility but I think that would probably be too chaotic...

[Strictly Jake]

Right come on its time bojo

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Josy

Reducing the burden on the NHS was the main reason for the last lockdown and according to the data guy on sky news not 20 mins ago this lockdown is for the same reason, theyve apparently been shown new data saying the infection rate will rise a whole lot more than previously expected within 8 weeks ie xmas, causing the NHS to buckle

Yes and that was the main reason for the field hospitals and the 45000 beds, but they simply havent been used , why?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by utopianman

Yes and that was the main reason for the field hospitals and the 45000 beds, but they simply havent been used , why?

Lockdown slowed infection rate enough that the main hospitals were no longer struggling so there was no need to use the nightingale?

[MTVN]

Tier one to full lockdown overnight, sigh..

Hoped our government would be braver than this

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by utopianman

Yes and that was the main reason for the field hospitals and the 45000 beds, but they simply havent been used , why?

They haven't the staff.
They opened them but haven't got the staff in place needed.

[LeatherTrumpet]

thank god we have Nicola in charge here

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Tier one to full lockdown overnight, sigh..

Hoped our government would be braver than this

What would have been the ‘brave’ choice?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thank god we have Nicola in charge here

On Monday you go to your new Tiers 5

[Amy Jade]

All the girlies and gays tuning in to see Little Mix and this guff is on again.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no need to get personal joey, you clearly just dont understand what the purpose is of a lockdown

... and you say don't get personal.
I don't get personal.

I don't agree with you, you don't me.
You were the one who jumped in to try to tell me I'm wrong.
Now you're inferring I'm thick.

I'll send back to you don't get personal then.

I certainly don't need educating on covid from you thank you.
I've lost enough people to last a lifetime already to it.

You end up in hospital, hospitals can't cope, get overwhelmed, lives are lost.
So why was this not done earlier to stop that happening.

Or do lives not matter if they're lost if hospitals aren't overwhelmed.
Unbelievable.

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Josy

Lockdown slowed infection rate enough that the main hospitals were no longer struggling so there was no need to use the nightingale?

That is utter madness, the field hospital would quarantine the disease so it would NOT spread through the main hospitals to other patients and staff. Put ALL the covid in 1 building away from everyone else. Then all staff to wear a tonne of PPE in the covid hospitals. This is the ONLY way to defeat this disease.

The main hospitals can then be used for all other procedures, all of which as are also essential. 25 million plus cancellations in main hospitals in 6 months because patients and staff are too scared to go there in case they catch it. with ALL covid sent to quarantine hospitals all that fear and infections in the main hospitals would disappear.

please do not fall for the line these field hospitals are not needed, they are needed and will be essential in the coming months. BUT they cannot be used for regular patients as they do NOT have the essential equipment, mris , x rays, ct scanners , operating theatres etc etc so they can ONLy be used for covid. The governments have dithered and failed to act on them, they must do so NOW

[parmnion]

They all seem very nervous

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What would have been the ‘brave’ choice?

Continue with a regional approach and put the focus on developing smarter tools to combat the rise in infections/protect the vulnerable

Boris too scared to be an outlier when the rest of Europe is locking down imo

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They haven't the staff.
They opened them but haven't got the staff in place needed.

That is utter madness, they need to transfer some of the staff and all of the covid patients to these field hospitals NOW

The field hospital would quarantine the disease so it would NOT spread through the main hospitals to other patients and staff. Put ALL the covid in 1 building away from everyone else. Then all staff to wear a tonne of PPE in the covid hospitals. This is the ONLY way to defeat this disease.

The main hospitals can then be used for all other procedures, all of which as are also essential. 25 million plus cancellations in main hospitals in 6 months because patients and staff are too scared to go there in case they catch it. with ALL covid sent to quarantine hospitals all that fear and infections in the main hospitals would disappear. The numbers of staff then off with covid whether infected or self isolated or through fear of cathcing it would all fall through the floor. so far more staff would become available.

please do not fall for the line these field hospitals are not needed, they are needed and will be essential in the coming months. BUT they cannot be used for regular patients as they do NOT have the essential equipment, mris , x rays, ct scanners , operating theatres etc etc so they can ONLy be used for covid. The governments have dithered and failed to act on them, they must do so NOW

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They all seem very nervous

Yes as they have had a long Afternoon
With MP's and Bleedin' backbenchers

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Continue with a regional approach and put the focus on developing smarter tools to combat the rise in infections/protect the vulnerable

Boris too scared to be an outlier when the rest of Europe is locking down imo

This is a first for me but totally agree with you!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Continue with a regional approach and put the focus on developing smarter tools to combat the rise in infections/protect the vulnerable

Boris too scared to be an outlier when the rest of Europe is locking down imo

Well yes.
That should have been done from the end onwards of the last lockdown.

They took away the official protection of the vulnerable, even for those who wanted it.

[arista]

Hairdressers
will be Angry.