[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well, seeing the first people being vaccinated brought a lump to my throat, i don't mind saying. It was such an uplifting moment in what has been a completely **** year

Aw, I agree. My FB stream was full of people putting pics of their parents and grandparents all being vaccinated with massive smiles on their faces. I know the immediate future is still very uncertain with regards to how effective the vaccine is and whether it actually stops transmission but its the first time I've seen a lot of genuine smiles and hopes for months......and its priceless

[arista]

Coronavirus: BMW, Honda and Toyota suspend UK car production

[The UK car industry is slowly grinding
to a halt after BMW, Toyota and Honda said
they would temporarily shut down
their UK factories because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Nissan and Vauxhall have already closed
plants amid falling sales and a lack
of parts caused by the epidemic.
Jaguar Land Rover is expected to halt
production in the coming days.
In North America, Ford and General Motors
are among the firms also shutting
factories due to the virus.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51944301

[arista]

The Owner of Pimlico Plumbers (Charlie Mullins)
was just on a Live Link on GMBHD itv.
Has said all his workers will get the Vaccine.
Then he states all customers must have it?

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/1...-on-the-cards/

Netherlands: 3 guests at christmas dinner, and tougher measures are on the cards but not yet


Vaccinations

Health minister Hugo de Jonge said that the first delivery of vaccines will now be in the first week in January rather than December, but that every effort is geared towards starting the mass vaccination programme as soon as possible.

In addition, fewer vaccines will be delivered in the first instance than had been hoped, in line with the European ‘fair shares’ approach, he said.

‘Nevertheless, it is a complicated puzzle,’ De Jonge said. The European Medicines Agency has to approve the vaccine for each particular group and that too may change the approach the Netherlands takes, he said.

‘It will be the summer before everyone is vaccinated, but at the same time, we must be wary of that “we’re almost there feeling”,’ the minister said.

[Nicky91]

[arista]

Nicky that tweet could also go on
The Light at the Tunnel Vaccine thread.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

The Owner of Pimlico Plumbers (Charlie Mullins)
was just on a Live Link on GMBHD itv.
Has said all his workers will get the Vaccine.
Then he states all customers must have it?

I love watching him he is so bullish

I can imagine him at the door administering jabs as the customers roll in

[joeysteele]

No apologies from me for my strong words here even at this time.

This is good positive moves forward at last.
I again congratulate all, all over all Nations who have fought to develop this vaccine.

I also give credit to the government for as rapid a roll out, in a planned way too.

However, my dismay remains at our death rate all through this pandemic and how we've gone back to thousands more deaths weekly in the second wave again too.
Even on the government's ridiculous only recording official deaths of covid as those occurring 28 days from diagnosis.

I have no liking for Piers Morgan, he has however ripped apart Gove this morning.
If Gove performs in a public inquiry the way he did in that interview this morning.
The only conclusion could be, in my opinion, this government has been deceitful and incompetent all through.

It should be a strong public inquiry, there are hoards of groups representing those who have lost loved ones unnecessarily in the UK.
With all the strong evidence and information those relatives and groups have.

The inquiry must be fully open and take in all accounts of all the groupings who have and are, gathering the factual substantiated information and evidence of what assisted by incompetence of those in power, this virus to destroy families by the losses of their loved ones unnecessarily, leaving those families crushed and devastated.

The way Gove was this morning, fills me with great hope and even confidence that those conducting a public inquiry, will see through this PM's and his Ministers deceit certainly in the first wave.
However too, still presiding over way too many losses of lives in the second wave.

I'm not sure this PM may want to be PM when this inquiry is running and concluded.
Because it's clear to me, all we've had from him and government Ministers is deceit.
Deceit now stemming from their incompetence.

This vaccine is wonderful news, definitely and while it will save lives and protect families now from losing more loved ones before their time.
It is not a redemption for this PM and his government.
Where in dealing with the pandemic, HE and THEY CHOSE, yes chose, to exclude and do all their way only.
Dismissing science, health experts and other elected representatives of the Nation too.

They chose that path, the buck stops at the PM and his Ministers door.
No other door.

Just as Iraq with Blair.
I think, and hope too, this PM will never be allowed by a majority after the public inquiry to ever shake of the rightful shame he and his ministers should feel at the end results pre the vaccine, of this pandemic.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I love watching him he is so bullish

I can imagine him at the door administering jabs as the customers roll in

Yes no messing with Pimlico Plumbers

[arista]

"I have no liking for Piers Morgan, he has however ripped apart Gove this morning."


Yes but Gove
would not say Sorry.

[Zizu]

We keep being told that infections in Wales are steadily rising still .. but now they’re REDUCING the self Isolation time DOWN from 14 days to just 10 days !?!

Confusing..


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 3.7 Billion euro for new stricter measures, with this extra money the government wants to prevent people losing their jobs or companies now this coronacrisis is going on for a while longer than expected

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/1...pport-package/

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: 3.7 Billion euro for new stricter measures, with this extra money the government wants to prevent people losing their jobs or companies now this coronacrisis is going on for a while longer than expected

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/1...pport-package/

Makes you wonder how all these countries can suddenly find BILLIONS of pounds / euros/ dollars after them all crying poverty for all these years !!??


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"I have no liking for Piers Morgan, he has however ripped apart Gove this morning."


Yes but Gove
would not say Sorry.

Just highlights Gove's great ignorance even more does that..

He looked and sounded being deliberately deceitful.
Sorry isn't a word this PM or his Ministers think they should say, never mind actually say it.
So that was no surprise.

However he had no answers to the factual points Morgan was putting to him.
To me, if he remains so, this deliberately deceitful in a public inquiry,will easily help said inquiry to further rightly condemn these Ministers for their dangerous incompetence, with the catastrophic losses of lives of others loved ones to be laid at their doors too.

[arista]

Well done the hard working Royals
visiting Nurses and staff
and thanking them.


The SNP leader
not being nice to them//////////////////

[arista]

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

6,589 new cases (421 more than yesterday) 291.254 in total now number of cases

194 new hospitalisations 1,684 in total

36 new ICU patients 473 in total

66 new deaths 9,841 in total

[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20201209/mer...y-break-record

Germany: Merkel demands tougher curbs as covid-19 deaths breaks daily record of nearly 600

"When Glühwein (mulled wine) stands are being built, when waffle stands are being built, that's not compatible with what we had agreed of only takeaways for food and drinks," she told parliament, in reference to traditional German Christmas markets.

"I am really sorry from the bottom of my heart... but if the price we pay is 590 deaths a day then then that, in my view, is not acceptable."

"We must do everything we can to ensure that we do not again experience exponential growth," said Merkel, in her emotional speech before the debate on the budget.

Germany has ordered far less stringent shutdown rules than other major European nations after coming through the first wave of the pandemic relatively unscathed.

But Europe's biggest economy has been severely hit by a second wave with daily new infections more than three times that of the peak in the spring.

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

I’ve only just realised that Brexit kicks in soon and we will somehow be trying to IMPORT millions of doses of vaccine with no deal agreed


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[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ve only just realised that Brexit kicks in soon and we will somehow be trying to IMPORT millions of doses of vaccine with no deal agreed


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Not to Brexiteer, but that only really matters if they're produced or manufactured in the EU which they probably won't be.

[Zizu]

Sky now reporting that London is likely to go into Tier 3 any day after infections rate continues to rise ..

We haven’t even got close to the 5 day ( ten really) ‘ease-down’ yet !!


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky now reporting that London is likely to go into Tier 3 any day after infections rate continues to rise ..

We haven’t even got close to the 5 day ( ten really) ‘ease-down’ yet !!


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Will not be surprised if that happens, London was taken on an average, some Boroughs were very high

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not to Brexiteer, but that only really matters if they're produced or manufactured in the EU which they probably won't be.

Pretty sure the majority are being produced in India

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky now reporting that London is likely to go into Tier 3 any day after infections rate continues to rise ..

We haven’t even got close to the 5 day ( ten really) ‘ease-down’ yet !!


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Yes its many newspapers today.