[Kizzy]

The strain that was and still is about now is deadly.. was that not reason enough to lock down? This new strain is irrelevant as the old threat still exists :/

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The strain that was and still is about now is deadly.. was that not reason enough to lock down? This new strain is irrelevant as the old threat still exists :/

tier 3 has kept the likes of liverpool and manchester in check, but that isn't enough in london and the south east, so its very relevant. If the new strain takes hold in the rest of the country, the whole country will end up in tier 4 until April

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

tier 3 has kept the likes of liverpool and manchester in check, but that isn't enough in london and the south east, so its very relevant. If the new strain takes hold in the rest of the country, the whole country will end up in tier 4 until April

You misunderstood the point there.. and once again made some bizarre reference to a difference in behaviours that has enabled the spread in some areas but not other's.

Why were the rules OK for the north but not SE?
The levels there were rising way before the new strain was discovered. As I said months ago there is NOTHING that will stop this virus from engulfing the country bar a vaccine.

Let's hope it's effective for this new strain.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You misunderstood the point there.. and once again made some bizarre reference to a difference in behaviours that has enabled the spread in some areas but not other's.

Why were the rules OK for the north but not SE?
The levels there were rising way before the new strain was discovered. As I said months ago there is NOTHING that will stop this virus from engulfing the country bar a vaccine.

Let's hope it's effective for this new strain.

Apparently the Vaccine is meant to be reasonably effective against the new strain.

But obviously we'll just have to wait and see.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Apparently the Vaccine is meant to be reasonably effective against the new strain.

But obviously we'll just have to wait and see.

Thus far it's thought to be individually just as effective against all currently known strains of Covid. The issue is that faster spread = more people need to be vaccinated for effective herd immunity (the first step to driving a virus out of circulation). But a vaccinated person (assuming it's effective and assuming they produce an immune response - remember that 5% to 10% of people won't) should be just as protected from this strain as they were from OG Covid.

Worth remembering that there were already multiple strains I suppose, and that the "Europe strain" (the one that most of Europe and the US have, thought to originate in Italy) was already faster-spreading than the original Chinese strain.

We don't know much about the newly discovered strain yet; there's always the possibility that it's weaker (in terms of symptoms and outcomes) than previous strains.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Thus far it's thought to be individually just as effective against all currently known strains of Covid. The issue is that faster spread = more people need to be vaccinated for effective herd immunity (the first step to driving a virus out of circulation). But a vaccinated person (assuming it's effective and assuming they produce an immune response - remember that 5% to 10% of people won't) should be just as protected from this strain as they were from OG Covid.

Worth remembering that there were already multiple strains I suppose, and that the "Europe strain" (the one that most of Europe and the US have, thought to originate in Italy) was already faster-spreading than the original Chinese strain.

We don't know much about the newly discovered strain yet; there's always the possibility that it's weaker (in terms of symptoms and outcomes) than previous strains.

I actually did not know about the 5 to 10% of people won't produce an immune response to the Vaccine, it makes sense, it's just I didn't think about it before.

And yeah hopefully the new strain is weaker.

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The strain that was and still is about now is deadly.. was that not reason enough to lock down? This new strain is irrelevant as the old threat still exists :/

Yeah i agree here they shouldnt have told anyone that rules were gonna be relaxed. At least noone would have made plans that way and know what to expect

I am so frustrated I get how health and lives are so much more important so its best to cancel plans but ita getting peoples hopes up and getting them to splash the cash that i find disgraceful.