[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s no different in Germany, France, Spain, Italy

But there's places who aren't in our situation because their gov hasn't ****ed up likes ours

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But there's places who aren't in our situation because their gov hasn't ****ed up likes ours

Where in Europe are these places?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Where in Europe are these places?

I was speaking about places all over the world not only Europe but like Dezzy said this could have been avoided if common sense was used yes rule breakers but that wasn’t the only issue. You can’t excuse entering lockdown too late, lockdown not being strict enough and keeping the schools open when that was one of the main reasons why the cases went up. How hard ls it to blame the leaders as well as rule breakers? No one can say the UK are doing great and the gov are doing great.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I was speaking about places all over the world not only Europe but like Dezzy said this could have been avoided if common sense was used yes rule breakers but that wasn’t the only issue. You can’t excuse entering lockdown too late, lockdown not being strict enough and keeping the schools open when that was one of the main reasons why the cases went up. How hard ls it to blame the leaders as well as rule breakers? No one can say the UK are doing great and the gov are doing great.

I’m not excusing anything I asked you what country in Europe has succeeded in eradicating the virus, and you haven’t responded, even Germany which practically survived the first wave is struggling

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m not excusing anything I asked you what country in Europe has succeeded in eradicating the virus, and you haven’t responded, even Germany which practically survived the first wave is struggling

Ok maybe Europe are failing at this (not Canary Islands though much safer and stricter there) but still some places have been successful and did the right thing, Australia and New Zealand are doing fantastic. They shut their border and we didn't.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m not excusing anything I asked you what country in Europe has succeeded in eradicating the virus, and you haven’t responded, even Germany which practically survived the first wave is struggling

No other European Country is going into tier 4 five days before Christmas after the leader saying that he didn't want to ruin peoples Christmas.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No other European Country is going into tier 4 five days before Christmas after the leader saying that he didn't want to ruin peoples Christmas.

That's the crux of it..

He didnt want to, but in the end had to to save lives.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That's the crux of it..

He didnt want to, but in the end had to to save lives.

Well then he should've done it a week ago imo as he was warned.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I’m not excusing anything I asked you what country in Europe has succeeded in eradicating the virus, and you haven’t responded, even Germany which practically survived the first wave is struggling

Oh Cherie,lol its just a great excuse for some to bash a government who have had the nads to take Brexit through, to blame one man for all this is frankly stupid , its an unknown to everyone, no country has this under control, plus the advice has been laid out and people still don't get it,then throw their dummies out when things don't go their way.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh Cherie,lol its just a great excuse for some to bash a government who have had the nads to take Brexit through, to blame one man for all this is frankly stupid , its an unknown to everyone, no country has this under control, plus the advice has been laid out and people still don't get it,then throw their dummies out when things don't go their way.

Honestly that is pathetic sorry to say to attack people for this government's disastrous handling of this pandemic, to accuse them of being against a brexit Cabinet.

Ignore all you like the times this PM has dismissed scientific and health advice.
Have presided over a still rising and shocking deaths total, only on numbers within 28 days of diagnosis too.

How many have died more than 28 days later.

People have lost loved ones in the thousands,hundreds of thousands grieving families, friends, workmates and neighbours.

Yet you summarise as it's those against brexit.
Honestly it beggars belief.

I'll get jumped on for saying this, I've lost 4 special people from my life to this hateful virus and in part due to this government's incompetence too.
I don't want to lose any more.
That's why I attack their failure, nothing to do with brexit.

Which actually they're making it seems at present , a right pig's ear of that too for the UK anyway, since YOU bring it up.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Honestly that is pathetic sorry to say to attack people for this government's disastrous handling of this pandemic, to accuse them of being against a brexit Cabinet.

Ignore all you like the times this PM has dismissed scientific and health advice.
Have presided over a still rising and shocking deaths total, only on numbers within 28 days of diagnosis too.

How many have died more than 28 days later.

People have lost loved ones in the thousands,hundreds of thousands grieving families, friends, workmates and neighbours.

Yet you summarise as it's those against brexit.
Honestly it beggars belief.

I'll get jumped on for saying this, I've lost 4 special people from my life to this hateful virus and in part due to this government's incompetence too.
I don't want to lose any more.
That's why I attack their failure, nothing to do with brexit.

Which actually they're making it seems at present , a right pig's ear of that too for the UK anyway, since YOU bring it up.

It's baffling that anyone thinks Boris is doing a good job, he isn't even trying his best . His leadership skills are abysmal , he's put people in more confusion and risked their health drastically .

He's gone back and forth more times than a yo-yo . And now there's tier 4 just when we thought things couldn't get any worse

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Honestly that is pathetic sorry to say to attack people for this government's disastrous handling of this pandemic, to accuse them of being against a brexit Cabinet.

Ignore all you like the times this PM has dismissed scientific and health advice.
Have presided over a still rising and shocking deaths total, only on numbers within 28 days of diagnosis too.

How many have died more than 28 days later.

People have lost loved ones in the thousands,hundreds of thousands grieving families, friends, workmates and neighbours.

Yet you summarise as it's those against brexit.
Honestly it beggars belief.

I'll get jumped on for saying this, I've lost 4 special people from my life to this hateful virus and in part due to this government's incompetence too.
I don't want to lose any more.
That's why I attack their failure, nothing to do with brexit.

Which actually they're making it seems at present , a right pig's ear of that too for the UK anyway, since YOU bring it up.

Great post Joey! As I said before people are rightfully annoyed and angry with how it’s been handled as it’s been mentally exhausting to deal with, just wish I could just move to Australia or New Zealand where it’s much safer there.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Honestly that is pathetic sorry to say to attack people for this government's disastrous handling of this pandemic, to accuse them of being against a brexit Cabinet.

Ignore all you like the times this PM has dismissed scientific and health advice.
Have presided over a still rising and shocking deaths total, only on numbers within 28 days of diagnosis too.

How many have died more than 28 days later.

People have lost loved ones in the thousands,hundreds of thousands grieving families, friends, workmates and neighbours.

Yet you summarise as it's those against brexit.
Honestly it beggars belief.

I'll get jumped on for saying this, I've lost 4 special people from my life to this hateful virus and in part due to this government's incompetence too.
I don't want to lose any more.
That's why I attack their failure, nothing to do with brexit.

Which actually they're making it seems at present , a right pig's ear of that too for the UK anyway, since YOU bring it up.

I knew you would not agree Joey,but this is how i see it ,what does he have to gain by causing anger amongst people who probably voted for him ? he didn't stand a chance really as soon as he became PM he got called for wanting Brexit,then this pandemic took hold so those that already hated him had something else to have a go at him for,I am sure he has done what he has been advised to do aswell as trying to keep Christmas for us,but it obviously cant happen so now the hammer has been brought down,that's not good enough either, he cant please everyone all of the time ,none of them can, and crowds are still protesting about its a made up virus !!! I for one feel sorry for him,I really would not want his job, would you ?Anyway you stay safe