[The Slim Reaper]

I don't think folks understand what great means, because this isn't it. We've gone from "they'll be begging is for a deal" to being poorer and with fewer rights.

No one would go into a salary negotiation, come out with a paycut, then call it a great deal. The folly of accepting 4th best in exchange for mythical sovereignty that this deal doesn't achieve.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No one would go into a salary negotiation, come out with a paycut, then call it a great deal.

To be fair, they probably would if they had demanded a pay rise in a huff and then gone into the meeting expecting to be fired.

[bots]

The May deal was pretty much going to tie us to all the EU rules and regs so it is completely different to anything May came up with

Its a trade deal, that's what people are failing to grasp. In itself its ok. Boris never set out to have integration with the EU, that's why we left. We voted not to be part of the united states of europe and that's what we now have. Also, lets not kid ourselves, both sides were desperate to have a deal, thats why drop dead dates were continuously revised. I voted remain, but I am completely fed up with the whole thing now. We have a baseline that is not as catastrophic as it could have been and future governments are free to negotiate revised terms as and when they want

[The Slim Reaper]

"Not as catastrophic as it could have been" doesn't work quite as well on the side of a bus. The greatest con ever pulled on the nation, that will cost us for decades to come until we rejoin..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

"Not as catastrophic as it could have been" doesn't work quite as well on the side of a bus. The greatest con ever pulled on the nation, that will cost us for decades to come until we rejoin..

Honestly as a remainer I think we just need to move on now, it’s done and can probably be undone in a few years, feels pretty pointless to argue about it, the grass was greener for 52% and I am sure for some it will be, there will be winners and losers in this brave be world

Bojo is off to India in the NY I would say free movement of people might be on the cards in any trade deal

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Honestly as a remainer I think we just need to move on now, it’s done and can probably be undone in a few years, feels pretty pointless to argue about it, the grass was greener for 52% and I am sure for some it will be, there will be winners and losers in this brave be world

Bojo is off to India in the NY I would say free movement of people might be on the cards in any trade deal

Just pointing out the actual facts, not the made up ones. Promised the world, and delivered less than catastrophe. Also a lot of revisionism in here about the fact Boris tried to illegally shut down parliament last year to force us out on a no deal. Ironically, I think covid and the mess our economy is in from that, is the only reason why we even have this deal at all. I didn't start this thread, but I can address the misinformation.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Honestly as a remainer I think we just need to move on now, it’s done and can probably be undone in a few years, feels pretty pointless to argue about it, the grass was greener for 52% and I am sure for some it will be, there will be winners and losers in this brave be world

Bojo is off to India in the NY I would say free movement of people might be on the cards in any trade deal

I seem to remember saying this in 2015..

We're going back to our colonialist roots, bring people here to work with limited rights and when they've served their purpose back they go.

That was how Windrush was meant to go if it weren't for the pesky rights of children. They'll be none of those now.

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

"Not as catastrophic as it could have been" doesn't work quite as well on the side of a bus. The greatest con ever pulled on the nation, that will cost us for decades to come until we rejoin..

since the 1970's it's been pretty much a 50/50 split with the common market onward, so it's anything but a con, people just got the opportunity to express what they wanted. It has never been any different. Like I said, i wanted to remain, but i'm not unhappy with the deal as it is now

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

"Not as catastrophic as it could have been" doesn't work quite as well on the side of a bus. The greatest con ever pulled on the nation, that will cost us for decades to come until we rejoin..

Best not mention buses in a thread about Brexit.