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Zizu · 04-01-2021, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm not a cynic. ... as you know....

But does anyone else think that this is why they postponed the 2nd Pfizer jabs for the vulnerable?

If they are proven the more effective of the 2, then they are going to be in greater demand.
I really can't see any other reason that makes any sense to have cancelled appointments for it.

As I understand it .. there’s a shortage of available vaccines so they want to give as many people as possible an initial dose to try and slow this virus down ... then worry about the second dose whenever possible .

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Kizzy · 04-01-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

As I understand it .. there’s a shortage of available vaccines so they want to give as many people as possible an initial dose to try and slow this virus down ... then worry about the second dose whenever possible .

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Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.

Really ??

Maybe we ORDERED all those ...

Pretty sure I heard that the only things slowing down the vaccine program is shortage of vaccines and shortage of staff available to administer them ..

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smudgie · 04-01-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

#]

This is dated 24/12

BRITAIN has issued a ban on all travel from South Africa to halt the spread of a new, more infectious strain of coronavirus.

The Department of Transport last night confirmed that all passengers travelling from South Africa to England from 9am this morning would not be permitted to enter the country.

Yep. A schoolteacher mate of my daughters went over to see his family.
After being advised not to.

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS

Wow the Oxford one only offers 70% immunity after the first jab? That’s a lot lower than I thought. They made out that two jobs offer 90-95% immunity and that there was barely any difference between 1 jab and 2 jabs. Maybe the Oxford vaccine just has the lowest immunity of all of them?

Is that correct .. ..

I don’t suppose you get a choice when the call comes though ..

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user104658 · 04-01-2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nah... I don't buy it we had 60m doses of Pfizer and 100m of Oxford, plenty to carry on with the inoculation of those already receiving Pfizer whilst rolling out the Oxford jabs simultaneously.

We have ORDERED hundreds of millions of doses. They haven't actually been manufactured or delivered.

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 11:39 PM

Sobering thoughts from Thomas Moore Sky Science correspondent

So we know that the recent rise in infections is solely due to this new more virulent variant - it is 50% more transmittable .

The virus is staying one step ahead of the science .
It’s basically a race now between the ‘injections’ versus ‘infections’ ‘

90% of deaths are over 65 and we have 17 million people over 65 .

The dilemma is how quickly can we get an initial dose into 17 million people ... as the virus ain’t sitting around waiting ..

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Kizzy · 05-01-2021, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We have ORDERED hundreds of millions of doses. They haven't actually been manufactured or delivered.

Really? Pfizer said millions of doses had been sent and the government reported recieving 22 deliveries on Christmas day.

bots · 05-01-2021, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Really? Pfizer said millions of doses had been sent and the government reported recieving 22 deliveries on Christmas day.

the pfizer manufacture/distribution is much slower than the oxford vaccine due to its complexities. They will speed up but at the moment it is a challenge.

If we get the vulnerable vaccinated by the autumn, i think that should be considered a good result.

Ammi · 05-01-2021, 07:47 AM

Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

bots · 05-01-2021, 07:53 AM

you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab as your body is more likely to generate good quantities of anti bodies.

Ammi · 05-01-2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab as your body is more likely to generate good quantities of anti bodies.

...as if we’re all going to sleep like babies and be totally relaxed and calm the Eve before Jabber Day...

...

Zizu · 05-01-2021, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the pfizer manufacture/distribution is much slower than the oxford vaccine due to its complexities. They will speed up but at the moment it is a challenge.

If we get the vulnerable vaccinated by the autumn, i think that should be considered a good result.

They’re saying they will achieve that by 6th Feb aren’t they or was that a different thing ?

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Zizu · 05-01-2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

Hopefully this will be mentioned to everyone or there’s going to be a lot of wasted vaccines

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bots · 05-01-2021, 08:49 AM

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They’re saying they will achieve that by 6th Feb aren’t they or was that a different thing ?

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i'm classifying the vulnerable as 55 and over and those with existing conditions

Zizu · 05-01-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm classifying the vulnerable as 55 and over and those with existing conditions

Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??

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user104658 · 05-01-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

Whew! I don't drink so the vaccine will work much better for...

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you should also get a good nights sleep before getting the jab

Oh never mind

user104658 · 05-01-2021, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??

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I think it was over-85's or maybe over-80's? By FAR the largest group for Covid deaths but only a small proportion of what's considered still "in a vulnerable group".

Ammi · 05-01-2021, 09:41 AM

...I believe that he was referring to over 70s in age and all of the other medically vulnerables etc...but as per Boris, it’s quite an ambitious hoped for in time span...let’s see how it goes with any potential delays being allowed for as well...

Cherie · 05-01-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Wonder what he was referring to yesterday then .. achieving ‘something’ by 6th Feb ??

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didnt hear 6th Feb specifically, think he might have said mid Feb

The first 4 priority groups

Care homes, care staff
front line workers
over 80s
clinically vulnerable

Ammi · 05-01-2021, 10:35 AM

...I’m confused, he did say over 70yrs would all be vaccinated by mid February as well...I felt sure that I’d heard that, unless I’m misunderstanding something....?...

...from 5:44 in his speech...

Youtube video

...actually, what I did miss is that he said those were the ‘realistic projections’ from the NHS ...

arista · 05-01-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

didnt hear 6th Feb specifically, think he might have said mid Feb

The first 4 priority groups

Care homes, care staff
front line workers
over 80s
clinically vulnerable

Gove MP has said today
it could be until March, now.

Ammi · 05-01-2021, 10:38 AM

...yeah, we have learned that with Boris, it all tends to be...a rough, maybe, possible guideline of a potential that might occurrence...other than that he’s almost spot on once he’s u-turned etc...

Vanessa · 05-01-2021, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

Why Experts Are Warning Against Drinking Booze When You Have The Vaccine...

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/alcohol-a...120535616.html

That's ok. I don't drink.

arista · 05-01-2021, 05:47 PM

The World Health Org.
Pfizer The 2 Vaccines must be done within 21 days.

Not the long UK 12 weeks

SkyNewsHD
said they stated that while the PM did his Conference, just now.

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