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Old 19-01-2021, 08:46 PM #26
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If Labour had been in power Universal Credit would have been scrapped or radically changed as to its more cruel time waiting and complicated claiming procedure.

So a likely fairer, more compassionate and more generous system would have been forthcoming.

Yes, however, I believe if Labour had been in power with universal credit not yet reformed, this extra would have been in place through the pandemic and beyond.

If they hadn't done it, they'd have been crucified hour after hour, day after day, week after week and even month after month.
On TV media, so called newspapers and the harder line Con supporters too.

Rightly so too, because had Labour been in power and haggled like street market traders, like this government is, over this £20, I'd have joined in the criticism of them not doing it and keeping it in place too.

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They might have added 6 quid on..that's about it.
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This is the problem. Not you smudgie, because I know you're only thinking of helping those that need it, but we have a government with a less than interested approach to collecting billions in tax, whereas good people don't see that as a problem and are happy to help out when needed.

What we really need is to sort out taxation and corruption. Rishi has already said he won't introduce a one off wealth tax to pay for the pandemic, it will be done through more cuts and those trying to make their way through life, whilst folks like rees-mogg hide their money offshore.
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We ordinary folk pay our taxes, those that have more should not be avoiding theirs
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They might have added 6 quid on..that's about it.

You can't say that with any fact.
That's pathetic.

Labour party MPs and it's members would never have tolerated just a £6 increase

Unlike the harder line Con supporters who would be the ones more likely giving nothing possibly.
Especially since their government is the one threatening to take away the extra not Labour.
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You can't say that with any fact.
That's pathetic.

Labour party MPs and it's members would never have tolerated just a £6 increase

Unlike the harder line Con supporters who would be the ones more likely giving nothing possibly.
Especially since their government is the one threatening to take away the extra not Labour.

I can't that is true, but what makes you think you can?
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I can't that is true, but what makes you think you can?
I know my Party and the bulk of Labour MPs and party members would never allow a paltry sum like £6 to have only been added.

I certainly wouldn't so I can say it easily.

It wouldn't have happened as you indicated because the membership and the bulk of Labour MPs and Party members such as myself, would be determined in a crisis to want to ensure help was solidly in place to build up the lower paid and more vulnerable, not try to bring them down further.

In fact however, no other Party but the present government, would be even thinking of taking away this extra payment at the present time.

It's likely an immaterial issue anyhow as this government is I'd say, going to be shamed again by Labour and all other Parties to do another of their so called 'listening u turns'.
After creating anxieties to those who need the certainty this extra would continue.

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