[Cherie]

urgh it's one step forward and one back, but i believe science will find a way

[arista]

[arista]

Russia's Sputnik V Vaccine
on stage 3, has a 92% efficacy in trial.


All media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55900622

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Russia's Sputnik V Vaccine
on stage 3, has a 92% efficacy in trial.


All media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55900622

Isn’t that the one that AZ are combining trials on?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Russia's Sputnik V Vaccine
on stage 3, has a 92% efficacy in trial.


All media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55900622

Watch Russia's vaccine be the most effective, and first released by a mile, but no one wanted to buy it from them because "yuck Russia"

[arista]

Vaccine's in the UK reach 10.1million now.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[DouglasS]

Some good news

Just to clarify about the Oxford job, not poor Captain Tom

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

TS

[A mutation of the Kent variant detected in some
samples could help the virus evade the immune
system, scientists have found.

The mutation, which has been labelled E484K,
has also been found in the South Africa variant
of the coronavirus.
It was found in 11 samples of some
200,000 that have been sequenced.

SkyNews science correspondent Thomas Moore said it
was a "worrying development" as it could mean
those previously infected could be re-infected
and could reduce the effectiveness of COVID vaccines.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ystem-12206375

Thoughts on these developments ??


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[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thoughts on these developments ??


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Terrifying, in all honesty.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thoughts on these developments ??


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could and might are what I am getting from that..

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

lovely cartoon thx for posting this arista

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

could and might are what I am getting from that..

I agree, it's a wait-and-see. There were all sorts of horrifying "new revelations" throughout last year and while some of them became a concern, many also came to nothing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree, it's a wait-and-see. There were all sorts of horrifying "new revelations" throughout last year and while some of them became a concern, many also came to nothing.

You can really see the glass half full/half empty people on this thread

The big news on this page is that AZ reduces transmission and that is a fact

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You can really see the glass half full/half empty people on this thread



The big news on this page is that AZ reduces transmission and that is a fact

Yes ... so presumably the others will also reduce transmission as well to varying degrees at least


EDIT
I’ve just read that there are well over 200 other vaccines in development .. although I’m not sure why we will need so many different vaccines ... I thought the more vaccines equated to the possibility of more mutations ???

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[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You can really see the glass half full/half empty people on this thread

The big news on this page is that AZ reduces transmission and that is a fact

reduces transmission is not good enough, something with uncertainty we cannot give to 65+

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

reduces transmission is not good enough, something with uncertainty we cannot give to 65+

I thought scientists were sure it covered over 65s it’s just that there isn’t enough conclusive data to prove it at the moment .. that’s not the same as saying it WAS ineffective for over 65s


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

reduces transmission is not good enough, something with uncertainty we cannot give to 65+

What difference do you really think age makes? Someone who is 64 is necessarily more resilient than someone who is 65

The vaccine will stop people becoming gravely ill in most cases and if it reduces transmission too thats a bonus surely

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought scientists were sure it covered over 65s it’s just that there isn’t enough conclusive data to prove it at the moment .. that’s not the same as saying it WAS ineffective for over 65s


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They are zizu....the EU are just being salty imo. The data is there, just not as much as for other age groups.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

What difference do you really think age makes? Someone who is 64 is necessarily more resilient than someone who is 65

The vaccine will stop people becoming gravely ill in most cases and if it reduces transmission too thats a bonus surely

true, but now also France's Macron has said AZ is basically 'ineffective'

now not just germany anymore but 3 countries now whom are against AZ


and let that be the one UK has been vaccinations loads of its people with

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

true, but now also France's Macron has said AZ is basically 'ineffective'

now not just germany anymore but 3 countries now whom are against AZ


and let that be the one UK has been vaccinations loads of its people with

And just how is Macron qualified to make that statement?

Is he more qualified than the scientists the EU trust who have approved the vaccine? The EU who have bought millions of doses of it?

But yeah believe the French president who is pissed off that his own country's vaccine has been delayed as it doesn't work.

And what do you mean by your last sentence? You actually want UK citizens to be vaccinated with an ineffective vaccine?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

true, but now also France's Macron has said AZ is basically 'ineffective'

now not just germany anymore but 3 countries now whom are against AZ


and let that be the one UK has been vaccinations loads of its people with

Politics Nicky, politics...

Why are the EU screaming for it...who are you trusting now the EMA or Macron...with all his vaccine knowledge

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

And just how is Macron qualified to make that statement?

Is he more qualified than the scientists they EU trust who have approved the vaccine? The EU who have bought millions of doses of it?

But yeah believe the French president who is pissed off that his own country's vaccine has been delayed as it doesn't work.

oh snap Annie

Its clear Macron is pissed... he put all his eggs in his own basket and it didn't work, he really is a nasty piece of work at times