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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is it an antibody thing? So preventative? Feel a bit dog with a bone now off being told I am talking in science fiction months back when theorizing if this would help, if it turns out thats actually whats going on...

Or is it, like it depletes plasma when attacking body so its a replace plasma for treatment thing?

I assume the focus seems to be on men giving plasma,. as women who have been pregnant, if they give blood and it goes to a man, it can be dangerous as ****? Or maybe, women give blood more, so they need men, or something..

Internet tells me ****e (searched plasma covid and was taken to a 'covid is a hoax' place for ****s sake). I prefer you as you seem well versed in it all!

I swear theres a virus on my laptop? Because I don seem to get the 'most hits' response anymore when searching, and instead get random crap half the time?! Malwarebytes says I am clear though..odd.

There were some trials using plasma at the early stages last year, but it reportedly had mixed results.

However, the concept has been refined, and there are drugs now available such as regeneron in the USA and there are equivalents now being made and trialed here. They are refined anti body cocktails basically, so the same principle as plasma, but with highly concentrated anti bodies that can fight covid. However, (and i think this is why plasma has limited use) The anti body treatment has to be given right at the start when covid symptoms have just developed. In those circumstances, it gives the body a boost to fight covid off before it can do so much damage. It is much less effective once covid has taken hold properly.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There were some trials using plasma at the early stages last year, but it reportedly had mixed results.

However, the concept has been refined, and there are drugs now available such as regeneron in the USA and there are equivalents now being made and trialed here. They are refined anti body cocktails basically, so the same principle as plasma, but with highly concentrated anti bodies that can fight covid. However, (and i think this is why plasma has limited use) The anti body treatment has to be given right at the start when covid symptoms have just developed. In those circumstances, it gives the body a boost to fight covid off before it can do so much damage. It is much less effective once covid has taken hold properly.

regeneron

Wasnt that what people laughed at trump for using (with no medical proof, iirc)?!

Am sure I remember it from that..

My theory, as a non scientist, was, if you give people plasma with antibodies, before they even get covid, would that not be effectively a vaccine? I know t-cell response is whats important really, not antibodies, BUT, if the antibodies were introduced in someone who hasnt fought off covid, would their t cells maybe..respond and learn to recognise covid in the future? That was the exact thing I was told was science fiction.

The antibody thing fascinated me so much I got 2 antibody tests privately you know. The news was adamant, that antibodies only last 3 months. I got one 5 months after covid (first was 2 months or so after covid..positive), and apparently still had them. Either mine last longer than most, I got covid again and didnt know, or the superdrug tests are off. Was my conclusions from that! 160 quid down, felt silly being 'curious' when harder times hit like!

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

regeneron

Wasnt that what people laughed at trump for using (with no medical proof, iirc)?!

Am sure I remember it from that..

i think you are thinking of the anti malaria treatment that Trump was trying to get everyone to take Regeneron was given to trump by hospital staff when he caught covid and it probably saved his life

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think you are thinking of the anti malaria treatment that Trump was trying to get everyone to take Regeneron was given to trump by hospital staff when he caught covid and it probably saved his life

Hmm maybe. I for some reason associate regeneron with trump and his miracle cures. Odd.

I found myself in an odd position..with the trump thing and covid. When he said, the way to get low covid stats, was to stop testing as much...I saw his logic? And said so. Ad got massively attacked by a load of people calling me a fascist and stuff! Was an odd experience for sure. I didnt say he was RIGHT in that being an answer..I simply sad his logic is sound, less tests done..less positive tests.

Seemed logical really. Like when we started mass testing, numbers shot up. More testing, will find more positive cases?!

The attacks made me totally rethink a lot of my 'debating styles' actually. I should have learnt from being on the 'bigot' side of the womens rights debate. And facing off with many 'lefties' due to that, being written off as a right wing bigot..when am probably more left wing than those arguing with me. But the Trump thing, I was unprepared for I have to say. I used to laugh at those who claimed that some would disagree with ANYTHING the orange one said, even if it made sense, and will attack anyone who agrees, even with sensible things. Thought it was bull. It..wasn't

Waffling again. Sorry. Post WAY too much when..socially lubricated, should I say..