[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because his having said a few stupid things erases everything he ever achieved

Churchill was PM during the war, part of a full coalition with the then opposition Labour party working closely alongside the then opposition leader Clement Attlee.

There were many, not just one person/s getting us through the war years.
Obviously I wasn't born.

HOWEVER it's odd this supposed great man who to some it seems won the war singlehanded..
Got booted out and hammered by the people and serving Forces personnel just weeks after the end of the war in the general election HE called.

Something about him didn't clearly click at that time then.

As for Farage, well that media parasite will look anywhere to find a media platform to spout his usual tripe.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Churchill was PM during the war, part of a full coalition with the then opposition Labour party working closely alongside the then opposition leader Clement Attlee.

There were many, not just one person/s getting us through the war years.
Obviously I wasn't born.

HOWEVER it's odd this supposed great man who to some it seems won the war singlehanded..
Got booted out and hammered by the people and serving Forces personnel just weeks after the end of the war in the general election HE called.

Something about him didn't clearly click at that time then.

As for Farage, well that media parasite will look anywhere to find a media platform to spout his usual tripe.

so you think he is talking tripe here?

wow

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so you think he is talking tripe here?

wow

At the risk of regretting even replying to you.

Where do I say that?

I rarely ever agree with Farage, he has his own darker agenda to me to just put down his usual prejudicial views on sectors of politics and those he has no time for.

Usually to me that comes out as tripe to me.
To those who agree with him or even admire him, well it wouldn't much matter what he said on anything or about anyone.

I said he'll look for any outlet to spout his usual tripe.
Nowhere did I state, he was talking only tripe here.
Although I take issue with his more hero worship of Churchill and the war.

It was the forces, the servicemen/ women,their military leaders and all out in the fields of battle who won and brought us through the war.
Not one man!!
Who was while the leading figure was only part of an important team.
That's what got the war won and who did.
Not just himself.

My criticism which I levelled re his hero worship of Churchill was that I disagreed with his insistence this one man brought victory in the war.
Because for some reason I submit again.
It didn't look like the people or the forces personnel saw him as this great exalted hero.

To try to throw him out on the political scrapheap..

Giving the man who'd been working at Churchill's side all through the said war who he gave no credit to himself, namely Attlee, a massive 145 overall majority in the general election.

So that doesn't tell me, people were that happy even at the time with Churchill.
That's what I disagreed with Farage on.

Yes, to me he does usually spout tripe.
Nowhere did I indicate that on this video comment however..
I took issue with his, in my view, clouded hero worship almost of Churchill.

I won't engage further with you and as I said I may end up with cause to regret replying.
However it's your right to contradict or dismiss my opinions too.
However, I say again, nowhere did I say he was or in fact wasn't, spouting tripe across the board in the video.
I took issue with his account of Churchill that's all.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Churchill was PM during the war, part of a full coalition with the then opposition Labour party working closely alongside the then opposition leader Clement Attlee.

There were many, not just one person/s getting us through the war years.
Obviously I wasn't born.

HOWEVER it's odd this supposed great man who to some it seems won the war singlehanded..
Got booted out and hammered by the people and serving Forces personnel just weeks after the end of the war in the general election HE called.

Something about him didn't clearly click at that time then.

As for Farage, well that media parasite will look anywhere to find a media platform to spout his usual tripe.

Can't stand Farage and that's the perfect way to describe him , he's a creep.

[Ammi]

...Nigel Farage investigates...?...he’s a rubbish investigator...the school hasn’t banned Churchill, they’re making house name changes which many schools do from time to time, it’s a very commonplace thing....I did watch his vid to see his ‘take’ on it, how he would present it or misrepresent it as is his historical way...mainly actually I watched it because of the vid title only mentioning Churchill....because I had read the story yesterday and in most of the media it was reported in full as Winston Churchill, HK Rowling, Florence Nightingale and Nelson Mandela all being the current school house names ...but the student body have decided that they want to have local places of importance, to be more personal to the local area and community...when school house names are chosen, they won’t always and forever reflect core values etc, either...which is a huge factor also in changing from time to time...and that’s a good thing...I mean...we didn’t want to stay in the EU, Nigel...did we...?...even though that was a once made decision back in the day, that’s not how we wanted to be represented now apparently....he’s so filled with hypocrisy and tailoring to fit and misrepresenting and just generally not giving a complete truth, but rather a very manipulated one that...that’s his ‘historical value’...lying about what the EU cost the country and how much the NHS were going to benefit and then retreating off the day after Brexit so as not to face his embarrassing lies...I can’t imagine Churchill having any praise for Farage’s character...he doesn’t ‘investigate’, he finds a point to incite....interesting that the only one he mentioned was Churchill and screams at parents to ‘not stand for it’....stand for what...?...house name changes to represent a local community at their child(rens) school in this free and democratic society...he’s a very dangerous man ...or tries to be...