Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 20-02-2021, 10:59 AM #526
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,475

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 52,475

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

As Cherie says, Harry knows what's right or wrong when discussing issues related to the Queen and the royal family. It just shows a total lack of respect for a family member let alone the queen. If this is the public face, we can only imagine what has been said behind closed doors
bots is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 11:10 AM #527
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 25,921


rusticgal rusticgal is online now
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 25,921


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
The more I look at the statement the worse it gets and I lay the blame for being an ass completely at Harrys door, They are not Megs family she barely knows them, the disrespect to his Grandmother is unforgivable, and could be excused if he was in his 20s but being the wrong side of 30 he should have more sense, spoilt brat, nothing more, no wonder Zara Phillips who I wouldn’t be able to pick out in a line up is more popular than him now

Absolutely.... However Harry is coming across as extremely weak and the pair of them are just behaving like spoiled brats because they really dont like it when they dont get their way. I dont think Harry is the sharpest tool in the box either and its starting to show.
So much disrespect at a time when Philip is in hospital.
rusticgal is online now  
Old 20-02-2021, 11:12 AM #528
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Thumbs down

The pompous little statement from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Hollywood PR department says it all

To us, it looks as if their work over the past year has been securing lucrative deals with Netflix and Spotify.

That is indeed duty and service but it looks like it is mainly duty and service to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

If you do good works — which they do — they will always be overshadowed by the money-making deals that race smartly alongside them.

No one cares about the unseen, unglamorous works they undertake when they live such a high-profile lifestyle.

Harry and Meghan moved from a huge mansion in Vancouver Island to a house in the Hollywood Hills and then to a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mendocino County — all in the space of a year.

Their PRs should be sacked for putting out such a statement which looked like a jibe at the Queen’s life of unselfish service.





https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/141053...pr-department/
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 12:42 PM #529
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
Smile

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...private-wealth

Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth

Unselfish service
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:03 PM #530
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...private-wealth

Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth

Unselfish service
The Queen’s wealth is inherited. How does not wanting to disclose the amount have anything to do with the unselfish service she has carried out for 68 years? Seems you are just finding something to nit -pick that was reported weeks ago to divert away from Harry and Meghan’s latest SELFISH actions.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:08 PM #531
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
The Queen’s wealth is inherited. How does not wanting to disclose the amount have anything to do with the unselfish service she has carried out for 68 years? Seems you are just finding something to nit -pick that was reported weeks ago to divert away from Harry and Meghan’s latest SELFISH actions.
So the queen getting involved in politics against protocol to protect her wealth is nitpicking and not selfish but two ex-royals leaving a position they didn't like and was adversely affecting their mental health is selfish.

Tell me, if someone is unhappy in a job, would you call them selfish for finding another job and leaving? Because that's essentially what Harry and Meg did, they left the family business to pursue their own path.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:09 PM #532
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
The Queen’s wealth is inherited. How does not wanting to disclose the amount have anything to do with the unselfish service she has carried out for 68 years? Seems you are just finding something to nit -pick that was reported weeks ago to divert away from Harry and Meghan’s latest SELFISH actions.
It's not unselfish service if you don't really have a choice, then you try to hide the results of that service from the people that are responsible for your wealth.

Jet, I honestly couldn't care less about royals, but you of all people accusing anyone of nit-picking to suit an agenda in these threads is beyond laughable.
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:17 PM #533
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

I would have a lot to say about this, but I'm not taking the bait to divert attention away from the disgraceful, selfish acts of Harry and Meghan and I hope nobody else who thinks like I do does the same.
That tactic was already tried with Prince Andrew.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:18 PM #534
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,162

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,162

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
As Cherie says, Harry knows what's right or wrong when discussing issues related to the Queen and the royal family. It just shows a total lack of respect for a family member let alone the queen. If this is the public face, we can only imagine what has been said behind closed doors


[QUOTE=rusticgal;11004016]Absolutely.... However Harry is coming across as extremely weak and the pair of them are just behaving like spoiled brats because they really dont like it when they dont get their way. I dont think Harry is the sharpest tool in the box either and its starting to show.
So much disrespect at a time when Philip is in hospital.[/
QUOTE]

100% the mind boggles
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:20 PM #535
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Deny, Defend, Depose.
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 14,066
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
I would have a lot to say about this, but I'm not taking the bait to divert attention away from the disgraceful, selfish acts of Harry and Meghan and I hope nobody else who thinks like I do does the same.
That tactic was already tried with Prince Andrew.
Taking the bait? You made the accusation, I just turned the mirror around and that's what you didn't like. I didn't even bring the queen into the thread.
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:20 PM #536
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Thumbs up Harry and Meghan Markle 'ungrateful narcissists'

Top radio host mike and guests discuss the interview with the odious Oprah




both talk about the brilliant Daily Star front page

Last edited by Crimson Dynamo; 20-02-2021 at 01:22 PM.
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:24 PM #537
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
I would have a lot to say about this, but I'm not taking the bait to divert attention away from the disgraceful, selfish acts of Harry and Meghan and I hope nobody else who thinks like I do does the same.
That tactic was already tried with Prince Andrew.
You could just say that you don't have a response, you don't need to insult people because you can't argue against what they are saying.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:27 PM #538
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Default

odious Oprah?

no need to insult a talk show legend whom had interviewed many many world famous stars, inspiring lovely lady

don't come for her pls LT


i don't care about the Meghan hate at all, but don't call Oprah odious pls
__________________
Spoiler:


No.1 Michelle Tsiakkas Stan Account
Nicky91 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:34 PM #539
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
You could just say that you don't have a response, you don't need to insult people because you can't argue against what they are saying.
You haven't responded to my posts to you (437 and 510) which started when you quoted me.
Was this because you hadn't a response or did you just miss them? You have no obligation to answer them of course.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:35 PM #540
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
odious Oprah?

no need to insult a talk show legend whom had interviewed many many world famous stars, inspiring lovely lady

don't come for her pls LT


i don't care about the Meghan hate at all, but don't call Oprah odious pls
She's so 90's era though.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:43 PM #541
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Default

I love how kate and will just glide through all this self-promotion and lust for money and just get on with serving the nation as if nothing has happened.

If only meghan had used kate as a role model then things would have worked out much better for her and harry

Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:46 PM #542
Josy's Avatar
Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,933


Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
Josy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,933


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
odious Oprah?

no need to insult a talk show legend whom had interviewed many many world famous stars, inspiring lovely lady

don't come for her pls LT


i don't care about the Meghan hate at all, but don't call Oprah odious pls
Oprah is pedo sympathiser but dont dare call her odious just hate on Meghan for pointless harmless stuff instead?

Umm that might just be enough internet for me for today :/
Josy is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:48 PM #543
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
You haven't responded to my posts to you (437 and 510) which started when you quoted me.
Was this because you hadn't a response or did you just miss them? You have no obligation to answer them of course.
I did respond, the post got deleted though in a large sweep.

Essentially I said that idle gossip isn't really a news source as it's just hearsay with no facts, like pretty much everything that people use to justify hating this couple. It's all speculation and nothing solid.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:52 PM #544
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
I love how kate and will just glide through all this self-promotion and lust for money and just get on with serving the nation as if nothing has happened.

If only meghan had used kate as a role model then things would have worked out much better for her and harry

She does, doesn't she? She's a very dignified and classy lady.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 01:57 PM #545
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Default

Queen to be Kate Middleton
__________________
Spoiler:


No.1 Michelle Tsiakkas Stan Account
Nicky91 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 02:14 PM #546
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13,050

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
I did respond, the post got deleted though in a large sweep.

Essentially I said that idle gossip isn't really a news source as it's just hearsay with no facts, like pretty much everything that people use to justify hating this couple. It's all speculation and nothing solid.

That is the answer I expected, it always is when people are too lazy to try to verify something they don't want to believe.
....and you call her family scum without any evidence (as you say) because you don't know what drove them to act as they did.
jet is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 02:23 PM #547
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
That is the answer I expected, it always is when people are too lazy to try to verify something they don't want to believe.
....and you call her family scum without any evidence (as you say) because you don't know what drove them to act as they did.
There is evidence of them being scummy, they literally sold articles about their daughter/sister for money to hurt her as her wedding approached. Such behaviour is disgusting, and then you've got the sister who is apparently writing books about Meghan to slate her as a way to profit of their relationship. Such things are scummy and I think you would say the same, were it not Meghan who was the target of such things.

There's more evidence of them being scum because of their actions than anything about Meghan because it's all wishful thinking and gossip. Her father and sister frequently ran to the press for profit. That is a fact.

Calling me lazy because I don't believe in things without proof is senseless. I'm not going to take strange claims at face value because I know better. I simply don't believe something just because it appeals to my view, I require proof to take idle gossip as anything more than idle gossip.

Finally, it doesn't matter what her family's motivations are, they still aimed to profit from their relation to her, they still lashed out to hurt her. A rational adult should know that they alone are responsible for their own actions. Meghan didn't force them to sell their stories, she didn't make them do anything, they chose to be toxic and that's on their own heads. It's completely warped to victim blame Meghan when it's her family that's clearly in the wrong for selling stories about her.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 02:25 PM #548
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Queen Michelle!
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 67,614


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
There is evidence of them being scummy, they literally sold articles about their daughter/sister for money to hurt her as her wedding approached. Such behaviour is disgusting, and then you've got the sister who is apparently writing books about Meghan to slate her as a way to profit of their relationship. Such things are scummy and I think you would say the same, were it not Meghan who was the target of such things.

There's more evidence of them being scum because of their actions than anything about Meghan because it's all wishful thinking and gossip. Her father and sister frequently ran to the press for profit. That is a fact.

Calling me lazy because I don't believe in things without proof is senseless. I'm not going to take strange claims at face value because I know better. I simply don't believe something just because it appeals to my view, I require proof to take idle gossip as anything more than idle gossip.

Finally, it doesn't matter what her family's motivations are, they still aimed to profit from their relation to her, they still lashed out to hurt her. A rational adult should know that they alone are responsible for their own actions. Meghan didn't force them to sell their stories, she didn't make them do anything, they chose to be toxic and that's on their own heads. It's completely warped to victim blame Meghan when it's her family that's clearly in the wrong for selling stories about her.
yes Samantha, much nicer person
__________________
Spoiler:


No.1 Michelle Tsiakkas Stan Account
Nicky91 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 02:29 PM #549
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
yes Samantha, much nicer person
Selling out family connections for a book deal to line her own pockets, a kind queen.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 20-02-2021, 02:34 PM #550
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,311


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
Selling out family connections for a book deal to line her own pockets, a kind queen.
She was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2008, and has been using a wheelchair since then. I admire her for working and making a living by writing.
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
harry, interview, meghan, oprah, set


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts