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Old 21-02-2021, 11:37 AM #1
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Default USA : NAZI NEIGHBOR,95 deported to Germany

[Nazi concentration camp guard, 95,
is deported back to Germany after
living 60 years in Tennessee
A NAZI who stood guard at a concentration camp
during World War II has been deported back
to Germany after living in Tennessee for over 60 years.
Friedrich Karl Berger, a 95-year-old
German citizen, was deported after
a US immigration judge deemed his
"willing service" as a guard of concentration
camp prisons "constituted assistance
in Nazi-sponsored persecution."]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/141137...ing-tennessee/
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Isn't this an old story? I thought this happened under trump (unless that was another one - I'll never click on a sun link to find out).

Just another example of cancel culture getting out of hand.
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I didn't even think any Nazis were still alive tbh

But anyway, darn ICE dragging people away from their homes and families
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Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.
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Isn't this an old story? I thought this happened under trump (unless that was another one - I'll never click on a sun link to find out).

Just another example of cancel culture getting out of hand.
It went to Court last year


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Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.
Yes he was Young
in WW2
but so many were.


There is a Hunting nazi team
based in USA, they will carry on even to get 98 year olds.
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[Berger also admitted he guarded prisoners
to prevent their escape and didn't request a transfer
from camp guard service.

Most surprisingly of all, Berger still receives a pension
from the German government, including for his "wartime service."
"I was 19 years old. I was ordered to go there," Berger said.]
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Ehhh I'm in two minds about this really. If he was a Nazi war criminal then yes but a 19 year old guard posted there under orders? And deporting him aged 95? Really what's the point, unless he did something "above and beyond" basic guard duties. Essentially what they're saying is, that a 19 year old basic army grunt should have taken a moral stand against actual SS officers, knowing full well what those men were capable of. It's a bit of a stretch. I can imagine a tonne of today's teens-and-early-20's telling themselves and everyone else, "Well, I wouldn't have done it! I would have taken a stand!!" ... no you wouldn't you'd have kept your head down and followed orders. I think it's VITALLY IMPORTANT to understand this, in fact.
Anyone working at concentration camps was taking part in war crimes, and "just following orders" was deemed not to be an excuse during Nuremberg. Ordinary army grunts weren't prosecuted for being soldiers
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Yes he was Young
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Aren't they woke fools?
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keep this species in US pls, we in Germany don't need filthy nazi scum anymore
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Just following orders is no excuse, really. He should face trial, and if there's evidence that he was under duress, then okay, he was forced into doing something terrible under threat of violence, but there were people who gladly served the regime and did terrible things of their own volition.

It should be determined which side of the coin this man falls on, and the best way to do that is through a trial.

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I discussed this with my grandmother this morning. She's roughly the same age as this man, give or take... she lost her whole family in the Holocaust and barely survived it herself. I've spoken with her previously about the horrors she endured and that fact that she lives with the memory of those horrors until this day. The man has had a whole life of freedom while millions died in the most appalling, dehumanising ways. They were starving, freezing, beaten, worked to death.... This man colluded in millions of Nazi murders and then disappeared without facing up to his crimes because he knew he had done wrong. Let him take the stand.

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I think the law has to be applied, if he is innocent he will go free
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