[Vicky.]

Zizu, if you feel uncomfortable 'asking for special treatment'...honestly, just say you were contacted to isolate. They can't prove you weren't, and while its not exactly honest, your mental health, and health in general is more important than a white lie told to an employer who refuses to be flexible tbh.

The way they are conitnually claiming schools are 100% safe is bizarre really. Of course they aren't..even with thousands of measures in place, nowhere is completely safe. But even less so, schools given..well they are basically huge germ factories to begin with.

[Ammi]

...Zizu, I have t read back through the posts completely but there are surely tasks you can do that won’t involve pupil contact/classroom work....and which you would feel less vulnerable doing...and honestly, it isn’t asking for any special treatment to have specific staff individual risk assessments done...

[Ammi]

...the thing about schools as well...(....as a generalisation, obviously...)...is that, although they're reopening and obviously need to be staffed...one year into this, they are also very understanding of mental health effects and concerns and worries etc...none of us could ever have imagined, when we first experienced school closures last year...there is a better understanding from school management teams now also...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Zizu, if you feel uncomfortable 'asking for special treatment'...honestly, just say you were contacted to isolate. They can't prove you weren't, and while its not exactly honest, your mental health, and health in general is more important than a white lie told to an employer who refuses to be flexible tbh.



The way they are conitnually claiming schools are 100% safe is bizarre really. Of course they aren't..even with thousands of measures in place, nowhere is completely safe. But even less so, schools given..well they are basically huge germ factories to begin with.

Yes the main defence are those pretty useless LFD test kits that were shown to be around 48% accurate IF administered by a trained adult ... these being done at home , presumably by a decent % of pupils doing their own will be even less accurate/reliable.

As regards telling a ‘white lie’ to my bosses ... it’s not something I could ever do plus I’ve already set things in motion by email so it would look very ‘suspicious’ if I said I’d been contacted by track and trace ..

Thanks anyways though ..


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[Vicky.]

I genuinely hope things get sorted for you somewhat. I find the way school staff have been treat throughout this..criminal tbh.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes the main defence are those pretty useless LFD test kits that were shown to be around 48% accurate IF administered by a trained adult ... these being done at home , presumably by a decent % of pupils doing their own will be even less accurate/reliable.

As regards telling a ‘white lie’ to my bosses ... it’s not something I could ever do plus I’ve already set things in motion by email so it would look very ‘suspicious’ if I said I’d been contacted by track and trace ..

Thanks anyways though ..


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...if you told ‘ a white lie’, I personally fear that it might add to your worries, Zizu...well, not add to them as such because some immediate ones wouldn’t be there...but it would just create a new set to replace them, you know....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I genuinely hope things get sorted for you somewhat. I find the way school staff have been treat throughout this..criminal tbh.

...yeah, there’s that as well, Vicky...but for many school staff, it’s also more a vocation and comparable to medical staff...not for all roles and staff, obviously but for many...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...if you told ‘ a white lie’, I personally fear that it might add to your worries, Zizu...well, not add to them as such because some immediate ones wouldn’t be there...but it would just create a new set to replace them, you know....

I agree

It’ll be fine ...

I’m now resigned to the possibility that I may be expected in next Monday which would give me 12.5 days of vaccine cover ..

So if I continue to be ultra careful and maybe wear a mask under a snood in the classroom I may be ok ..

There’s still the chance they will allow me to work from home until next Wednesday as I’ve requested and that would be even safer ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, there’s that as well, Vicky...but for many school staff, it’s also more a vocation and comparable to medical staff...not for all roles and staff, obviously but for many...

That’s very true ... I certainly don’t do it for the money

I was earning more 30 years ago in the cutthroat world of finance ...


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Yep....he cannot wait. I'll miss him, I feel a little more employed when he's at home but he hates it and can't wait to get back to his mates.

aw he will be off again in 3 weeks

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, there’s that as well, Vicky...but for many school staff, it’s also more a vocation and comparable to medical staff...not for all roles and staff, obviously but for many...

Oh I know this.

Its the...'schools are totally safe with no mitgation besides added handwashing'. 'Kids dont tend to get ill so schools are fine'..stuff like that that I think is a bloody disgrace. And the refusal to vaccinate teachers 'earlier' than their age band, that a few friends who work in schools are worried about. That could potentially be area rather than universal though..

Theres so much focus on NHS staff/other keyworkers (as there should be mind, not moaning about that part) meanwhile, teachers are told to just get on with it. Just seems teachers have been utterly ignored, and their safety totally disregarded...because kids are 'safe'.

Edit. Not blaming schools for that^ . Its the government, not the schools.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s very true ... I certainly don’t do it for the money

I was earning more 30 years ago in the cutthroat world of finance ...


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...yeah, I totally understand and I’m sure you have the mindset and thought process of it being your children who you would feel as though you were ‘letting down’ and that your colleagues are all feeling the same so you wouldn’t want any ‘special treatment’ that they’re not given...but you really wouldn’t be being given any that others aren’t because every member of a schools staff will also have individual risks to be assessed as well, even when that assessment is minimal risk...so if you feel that you can speak to your Head at all or line manager, then it’s something to think of also because there may be some non contact tasks you can do or continue working from home for a bit longer, as you say...there are always so many things to do in a school that can be done out of the classroom and with no pupil contact etc....

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, I totally understand and I’m sure you have the mindset and thought process of it being your children who you would feel as though you were ‘letting down’ and that your colleagues are all feeling the same so you wouldn’t want any ‘special treatment’ that they’re not given...but you really wouldn’t be being given any that others aren’t because every member of a schools staff will also have individual risks to be assessed as well, even when that assessment is minimal risk...so if you feel that you can speak to your Head at all or line manager, then it’s something to think of also because there may be some non contact tasks you can do or continue working from home for a bit longer, as you say...there are always so many things to do in a school that can be done out of the classroom and with no pupil contact etc....

Yes .. thanks.. I’ve set things in motion just have to wait a few days ...





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[Zizu]

Any news on that pesky new variant and/or that missing person ??

It all seems to have gone all quiet on the Brazilian front ..


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes .. thanks.. I’ve set things in motion just have to wait a few days ...





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[Nicky91]

https://www.reuters.com/article/cure...-idUSL5N2L24OE

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/ne...vartis-559592/

german CureVac vaccine will be produced by Swiss pharma giant Novartis

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.reuters.com/article/cure...-idUSL5N2L24OE

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/ne...vartis-559592/

German CureVac vaccine will be produced by Swiss pharma giant Novartis

[German biotech firm CureVac has enlisted
Swiss pharma giant Novartis to help with
the production of its experimental COVID-19 vaccine]

Early Days

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Had my vaccine yesterday. It went ok, I didn't even feel it go in tbh but i have a few side effects today with my arm hurting and i feel tired. It took me 4 hours to get out of bed to make some coffee

......I’m so pleased for you, Luke...and yeah, tiredness seems to be quite a common side effect from those people I know who have had it...but it’ll be over in a few days, hopefully...I hope that you’re back to yourself soon, though...but so good to know that you’re on your way to immunity...and tbh, you need lots of sleep now anyway to balance out that big social life you’ll be having in the up and coming when lockdown is lifted...there’ll be no sleeping time then.....

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

4.161 new cases

167 new hospitalisations (1.923 in total)

31 new ICU patients (539 in total)

33 new deaths

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ammi

......I’m so pleased for you, Luke...and yeah, tiredness seems to be quite a common side effect from those people I know who have had it...but it’ll be over in a few days, hopefully...I hope that you’re back to yourself soon, though...but so good to know that you’re on your way to immunity...and tbh, you need lots of sleep now anyway to balance out that big social life you’ll be having in the up and coming when lockdown is lifted...there’ll be no sleeping time then.....

Oops I deleted the wrong post

this is worth it I guess. Definitely no sleeping when going back to work soon so I guess I gotta make the most of it. I don’t normally like sleeping in but I just had to today.

[user104658]

Very encouraging "wednesday numbers" for both cases and deaths in Scotland (the day of the week with peak numbers, almost always);

17th Feb new cases 1121, deaths 64

24th Feb new cases 798, deaths 47

3rd March new cases 500, deaths 24

[bots]

i don't know if its the vaccine that is having the dramatic effect on numbers or not ... but whatever it is, it's great news

[Nicky91]

well Czech Republic is looking quite badly at the moment

with well over 8.000 total of hospitalisations, ICU's filled up, and Poland has provided some support for them, how they can move several patients to some of their hospitals


Czechs can use all support they can get now

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Oops I deleted the wrong post

this is worth it I guess. Definitely no sleeping when going back to work soon so I guess I gotta make the most of it. I don’t normally like sleeping in but I just had to today.

...and definitely not much sleeping when you hopefully have that holiday this summer.....at least it’s the vaccine that’s dictating to you atm and not so much the virus... a great thing, eh.....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't know if its the vaccine that is having the dramatic effect on numbers or not ... but whatever it is, it's great news

It's interesting that the deaths seem to be dropping (slightly) faster than overall infections - which could be because of vulnerable groups being vaccinated first (so a smaller proportion of new infections resulting in deaths).