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Amy Jade · 07-03-2021, 06:49 PM

Parm you know I think your a nice guy but wtf tonight

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

But if it hadn't been conclusively proven that your son had sex with an underage girl and he said he was innocent, as is the case here, what would you do?

I'd believe the evidence. You can keep moving the goalposts, but it won't change my answer. I would not shield a rapist, regardless of the circumstances.

smudgie · 07-03-2021, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

But if it hadn't been conclusively proven that your son had sex with an underage girl and he said he was innocent, as is the case here, what would you do?

I would support him all I could, until a court found him guilty.
Innocent until proven guilty for me.

LeatherTrumpet · 07-03-2021, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Imagin comparing Harry for marrying Meghan, to Andrew, who raped children and suggesting what they've done is both worthy of similar distrust..... Only on Tibb.

stop posting things that are allegations as fact

you will get the forum in trouble

DouglasS · 07-03-2021, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

stop posting things that are allegations as fact

you will get the forum in trouble

That means Dezzy thinks Meghan is a bully also

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ah, so recording an interview and the channel airing it at some point is akin to being a child rapist to you.

What an interesting sense of morality you have.

No..its a comparison I made up just like the one you did..

Mine is more on point.. do you have an answer for it?

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Parm you know I think your a nice guy but wtf tonight

I've said it for ages..

Andrew is Harry's favourite uncle.. that is a fact.

joeysteele · 07-03-2021, 06:55 PM

I don't say much re Prince Andrew, as there are criminal proceedings to be done.

I am stunned he hasn't voluntarily gone to the USA to ' assist' in this case.
His interview was a non event which didn't go well.

However, yes, the Queen and the Palace is protecting him, keeping him out the public eye and no more interviews or appearances, even as to those investigating in the USA.

Yes, he's the Queen's son, well what does she know, that he needs to be hidden away under her protective shield.

If any of her subjects could be thought to be needed to assist In a criminal investigation, she for sure wouldn't be wanting to see anyone, family or otherwise, protecting them from talking about it to officials.

This is another example of what's wrong with the stifling Royal set up and regime.
Where even if any were to want to say more, they likely have to shut up.

Well, that's why if I have any admiration for Meghan Markle, it's that she refused to be shut up and just tow the Royal rigid line.

Of course that then means, she loses that controlling rigid protective Royal set up shield.
So well done to her on that.

As for Prince Andrew, he has a colourful past in any event.

However, at present he himself has not been accused of anything.
It seems the investigators of the case just wanted to talk with him.

He could do an interview to talk about it on TV, but not go and talk TO the Investigators.
Why, to that is another question.

The Queen isn't wrong to protect him if innocent, I can't grasp why she supports him at least not going to talk to the investigation officials in the USA however.

rusticgal · 07-03-2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

If a son or daughter of mine raped children, they would be my child no more. I'd drag them to the police station myself. No amount of parental love could excuse such monstrous actions.

You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

It sounds like you're passing more judgement on me, for saying I would disown a child rapist, than you are for the said child rapist in question.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

No..its a comparison I made up just like the one you did..

Mine is more on point.. do you have an answer for it?

I don't have an answer for incoherent babbling, no.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS

That means Dezzy thinks Meghan is a bully also

A swing and a miss.

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't have an answer for incoherent babbling, no.

If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

jet · 07-03-2021, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'd believe the evidence. You can keep moving the goalposts, but it won't change my answer. I would not shield a rapist, regardless of the circumstances.

It's you who are moving the goalposts. Imagine it is your son, what evidence have you so far that you would state that your loved one is a rapist.

jet · 07-03-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

I would support him all I could, until a court found him guilty.
Innocent until proven guilty for me.

Absolutely. Any loving mother or father would.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

Nothing, I don't give a **** about what other people would be saying if a family member was on their deathbed.

It's insane to even compare that to a family member being a child rapist.

Amy Jade · 07-03-2021, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

he has been repeatedly asked to volunteer his time to go and help investigations and has so far not gone. His age is irrelevant.

Amy Jade · 07-03-2021, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

It's you who are moving the goalposts. Imagine it is your son, what evidence have you so far that you would state that your loved one is a rapist.

He says, just before trying to move the goalposts in the very next sentence.

I don't forgive rape, I would not call someone who could do that to a child my son. That is my answer, no amount of moving the goalposts and twisting what I say will change it.

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nothing, I don't give a **** about what other people would be saying if a family member was on their deathbed.

It's insane to even compare that to a family member being a child rapist.

You gave your answer on Andrew...I'm not comparing anything.. just wanting an answer to another scenario...

What about the little **** bringing the attention..

You would be giving him a green light to act like a selfish little prick in the future if you didnt man up and show him the proper way to act in such circumstances.shrug:

Bad parenting imo.

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

Very dismissive response.

Bye.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

What about the little **** bringing the attention..

You would be giving him a green light to act like a selfish little prick in the future if you didnt man up and show him the proper way to act in such circumstances.shrug:

Bad parenting imo.

A truly bad parent cares more about what the world thinks of them, and uses that as sway to affect their parenting. Being concerned with what the world is saying when someone you love could be dying is very warped.

As is the fact that you seem more offended by this than Andrew's actions.

Tom4784 · 07-03-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Very dismissive response.

Bye.

He says, while being dismissive because he got an answer he didn't like.

jet · 07-03-2021, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

He says, just before trying to move the goalposts in the very next sentence.

I don't forgive rape, I would not call someone who could do that to a child my son. That is my answer, no amount of moving the goalposts and twisting what I say will change it.

If your beloved son was accused of rape, and he told you he was innocent, what would you do? Can you answer a direct question without twisting?

parmnion · 07-03-2021, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

A truly bad parent cares more about what the world thinks of them, and uses that as sway to affect their parenting. Being concerned with what the world is saying when someone you love could be dying is very warped.

As is the fact that you seem more offended by this than Andrew's actions.

You still ain't addressed what you would do if your dad was on his deathbed and your son was bringing unnecessary further stress to the whole family.

You instantly said what you would do with andrew..a man merely accused of things..

You said you would dob him in..dob him in on the word of others...those others you say that thier words or thoughts dont matter if harry is ****ting on prince Phillips parade.

So what would you do with harry if he was your son and your dad was dying at the same time he was taking a swipe at you.

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