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That's unfair Annie. ONE doctor thought she might have an affliction.
She had help from a string of mental health professionals, just 'throwing pills at her' is an gross simplification.
I adored Diana and if they had refused her help, like Meghan claims they did with her, I would be the first to say so.
We will have to agree to disagree here Jet. The main help and support she needed was for Charles to be the husband and father she needed. Any help he got her was driven through guilt. She was sadly let down by all involved.
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...this was while she was pregnant that they were told that Archie wouldn’t be a prince and have an equivalent security/protection to how she had believed/been led to believe...obviously Archie, would very much be a target as part of the Royal family...obviously I haven’t watched it all in full, just parts that are being reported...but that’s how it reads to me, it isn’t relating to their lives now in the USA, it was generally as a royal within the family in the U.K., which was their plan at the time...
oh right, for me bringing what Archie's skin colour might be into the public domain is uncomfortable for me, I think while they want to get their point across, down the line this will come back to haunt them as it can never be taken back, and Archie may suffer for that comment going forward

Are children of the other Royals Princes and Princesses then, I don't know, will need to call on Jet I know Williams are but not sure about the rest
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yes Harry needed to spit out the name, however it may be held for a further interview, like a teaser..
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Harry says “time heals all things” ... not sure his brother and sister-in-law will be coming
around anytime soon after essentially being called racist, inhumane and too obtuse to understand that they are “trapped”

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This is disgusting

It’s posts like this that cause real damage to people with mental health conditions

If Caroline flack hadn’t ****ing hung herself and got through her ordeal and talked about it would you have said the same?
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We will have to agree to disagree here Jet. The main help and support she needed was for Charles to be the husband and father she needed. Any help he got her was driven through guilt. She was sadly let down by all involved.
Oh I agree with you there - I was specifically referring to the statement that she was refused help; she certainly wasn't.
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"In all my 21 yrs working for the royal family i never saw racism"

Formerly footman and butler to the Queen and later Diana's butler.
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Harry says “time heals all things” ... not sure his brother and sister-in-law will be coming
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Poor Harry when she starts divorce proceedings and all his boats have been burned.

See you all back here for the "I told you so" part of the discussion.
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oh right, for me bringing what Archie's skin colour might be into the public domain is uncomfortable for me, I think while they want to get their point across, down the line this will come back to haunt them as it can never be taken back, and Archie may suffer for that comment going forward

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Archie suffered before he was born the poor little guy , imagine someone being worried about a baby's skin colour .

It also shows sheer ignorance and stupidity on the person who said it (whoever that idiot is). It sounded like a fear that Archie would somehow come out "too dark" , either way disgusting racist mindset.

Not to mention the moment Archie was born , he got made the victim of a monkey joke thanks to brainless morons like Danny Baker .

I think it's important this gets addressed, Meghan hasn't named the person and I doubt they'll ever have the guts to admit what they said.
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oh right, for me bringing what Archie's skin colour might be into the public domain is uncomfortable for me, I think while they want to get their point across, down the line this will come back to haunt them as it can never be taken back, and Archie may suffer for that comment going forward

Are children of the other Royals Princes and Princesses then, I don't know, will need to call on Jet I know Williams are but not sure about the rest
...my thoughts are that is would have been uncomfortable for Meghan’s heritage brought into anything by some media and public for sure ...and indeed, uncomfortable for her to hear that any such conversations were then also being had about Archie within her husband’s family...In her extended family support circle, I can’t imagine how that would have made her feel..well, I can actually...I’ve known situations similar and yeah...really very uncomfortable and awful for someone...that her son was being discussed in terms of his skin colour...
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Archie suffered before he was born the poor little guy , imagine someone being worried about a baby's skin colour .

It also shows sheer ignorance and stupidity on the person who said it (whoever that idiot is). It sounded like a fear that Archie would somehow come out "too dark" , either way disgusting racist mindset.

Not to mention the moment Archie was born , he got made the victim of a monkey joke thanks to brainless morons like Danny Baker .

I think it's important this gets addressed, Meghan hasn't named the person and I doubt they'll ever have the guts to admit what they said.
yes I get all that, but its out there now, you know how cruel school kids can be?



Breaking Ophrah confirmed it was not Liz or Phil who made the comment
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...my thoughts are that is would have been uncomfortable for Meghan’s heritage brought into anything by some media and public for sure ...and indeed, uncomfortable for her to hear that any such conversations were then also being had about Archie within her husband’s family...In her extended family support circle, I can’t imagine how that would have made her feel..well, I can actually...I’ve known situations similar and yeah...really very uncomfortable and awful for someone...that her son was being discussed in terms of his skin colour...
as a teacher, you know that that is not how it might play out in the school yard

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OMG Trisha Goddard? Are they going to gather the opinion of every black woman who sides with them? LOL.....
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oh right, for me bringing what Archie's skin colour might be into the public domain is uncomfortable for me, I think while they want to get their point across, down the line this will come back to haunt them as it can never be taken back, and Archie may suffer for that comment going forward

Are children of the other Royals Princes and Princesses then, I don't know, will need to call on Jet I know Williams are but not sure about the rest
William's are because he's heir to the throne.

Princess Anne's children aren't, she didn't want it, nor Prince Edwards,
nor any of their childrens children.
Prince Andrews children Beatrice and Eugenie are Princesses, but he pays for their security himself.
I think that's all correct.

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kids get bullied because their parents die, some kids are not kind
...sorry, I don’t understand what you’re saying, Cherie...the connection..?...
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...sorry, I don’t understand what you’re saying, Cherie...the connection..?...
that their comments about his skin colour will be googable for ever? and might affect his life going forward, am I being very obtuse?
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William's are because he's heir to the throne.

Princess Anne's children aren't, she didn't want it, nor Prince Edwards,
nor any of their childrens children.
Prince Andrews children Beatrice and Eugenie are Princesses, but he pays for their security himself.
I think that's all correct.
oh right, so it's not the norm
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