[joeysteele]

I don't know.

I think it unwise to have held this vigil.
Or it could have been organised whereby small groups went to light candles themselves and lay candles for others.

However, this fury now built up by the fact this murder was committed by a serving Police officer, who should represent safety for all at all and any time.

It seems the Police might, I stress might, have gone in too heavy.
It's a sad fact sometimes the Police inflame tensions not calm them.

HOWEVER, there's an investigation into this now, so hopefully the right conclusions from all the accounts given from those who were at it.
Will be the result.

[arista]

Joey
The Speakers started Shouting (NO PA)
all the women had to then walk closer to them.

Thats when the Police started arresting.

Thats why the Police are Correct
under Covid Restriction Laws

All Crammed in Together.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

She stated that's out of date info.

And the way she could not stop saying
Ya' know
with every sentance, proves she is a student.

Yes of course she did,lol, her own page says she is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes of course she did,lol, her own page says she is.

An Extra


Is not a Proper Actor

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...51535058299867

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey
The Speakers started Shouting (NO PA)
all the women had to then walk closer to them.

Thats when the Police started arresting.

Thats why the Police are Correct
under Covid Restriction Laws

All Crammed in Together.

Whether the Police were fully correct in their actions and methods used.
Will be for the investigation to decide.

There is unrest too with people.
Tensions as to the Police, they know this murder was carried out by one of their own.

I think more careful than a routine response might, have been called for.
That too will be for the investigation to decide.

I wasn't there so it's down to the investigation to talk to those who were, then relate that to the actual Police response.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Whether the Police were fully correct in their actions and methods used.
Will be for the investigation to decide.

There is unrest too with people.
Tensions as to the Police, they know this murder was carried out by one of their own.

I think more careful than a routine response might, have been called for.
That too will be for the investigation to decide.

I wasn't there so it's down to the investigation to talk to those who were, then relate that to the actual Police response.

Sure but even you can work out
with no PA system they shouted
making all move far too close.
Breaking Current Covid Laws


Wasting Public money on this
is PATHETIC.

[Kazanne]

Sarah's parents did not want this to take place ,that should have been enough for people to not go as it was 'supposed' to be in memory of her, shame on them who used her memory to protest , especially during a pandemic.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sarah's parents did not want this to take place ,that should have been enough for people to not go as it was 'supposed' to be in memory of her, shame on them who used her memory to protest , especially during a pandemic.

Her family and friends have been completely side stepped in this.

It has only got to these levels because a policeman was involved. I didn't see any of this outrage for Libby Squires killer

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sarah's parents did not want this to take place ,that should have been enough for people to not go as it was 'supposed' to be in memory of her, shame on them who used her memory to protest , especially during a pandemic.

Yes it is making matters worse.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Her family and friends have been completely side stepped in this.

It has only got to these levels because a policeman was involved. I didn't see any of this outrage for Libby Squires killer

Exactly Cherie,

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Her family and friends have been completely side stepped in this.

It has only got to these levels because a policeman was involved. I didn't see any of this outrage for Libby Squires killer

Sometimes these things just hit a bubbling-over point and open up into a wider societal discussion. I do think that can be hard for those close to the person who happened to be "that case" that hit the news hard but it's somewhat unavoidable and it doesn't mean that these wider implications aren't important or should be ignored.

I can guess you can draw a direct comparison to George Floyd which, of course, very quickly was not just about George Floyd but institutional problems in the US that go back centuries.

Likewise, this murder has developed into a wider conversations about something that has effected women forever, and has now unveiled cultural aspects of "masculinity" and various other offshoots... you don't always get to decide who or what becomes the figurehead representation of wider issues, and unfortunately saying "that person might not have wanted to be a figurehead" isn't enough to start ignoring those conversations.

Like I said though I do have empathy for the families and friends in these situations, privacy is certainly affected.

[arista]

Activist Patsy aged 27
Went Live On SkyNewsHD on Every Hour as well.
Recorded an interview for GMBHD itv
now
Ch4HDnews need her to keep saying "Ya know."

[arista]

[Tom4784]

Her death has sparked conversations about women's safety, and I can't blame people for taking to the streets to demand change, to show how angry they are with the state of things. A pandemic may be ongoing, but that didn't stop a woman being kidnapped and killed, it hasn't stopped men from killing women since the pandemic began.

If people feel they have to protest, I can only hope that they wore masks and tried to distance when they could. I also think the police were heavy handed with dealing with the protest, when an officer has been arrested for kidnap and murder, you don't want male officers seen holding women down and using excessive force. It's an utter disaster for the police force and there needs to be consequences for those involved.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Sometimes these things just hit a bubbling-over point and open up into a wider societal discussion. I do think that can be hard for those close to the person who happened to be "that case" that hit the news hard but it's somewhat unavoidable and it doesn't mean that these wider implications aren't important or should be ignored.

I can guess you can draw a direct comparison to George Floyd which, of course, very quickly was not just about George Floyd but institutional problems in the US that go back centuries.

Likewise, this murder has developed into a wider conversations about something that has effected women forever, and has now unveiled cultural aspects of "masculinity" and various other offshoots... you don't always get to decide who or what becomes the figurehead representation of wider issues, and unfortunately saying "that person might not have wanted to be a figurehead" isn't enough to start ignoring those conversations.

Like I said though I do have empathy for the families and friends in these situations, privacy is certainly affected.

I think they is a time and a place for both, if the family specifically asked that the vigil did not go ahead in what world can it be right that their wishes were just cast aside

its not like the issue is going to be resolved tomorrow, they should have waited out of respect, maybe Sarah's parents/family would have liked to attend themselves but currently are not in a position to

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Her death has sparked conversations about women's safety, and I can't blame people for taking to the streets to demand change, to show how angry they are with the state of things. A pandemic may be ongoing, but that didn't stop a woman being kidnapped and killed, it hasn't stopped men from killing women since the pandemic began.

If people feel they have to protest, I can only hope that they wore masks and tried to distance when they could. I also think the police were heavy handed with dealing with the protest, when an officer has been arrested for kidnap and murder, you don't want male officers seen holding women down and using excessive force. It's an utter disaster for the police force and there needs to be consequences for those involved.

Indeed.
It is a bad look what you say in your last few words.
Plus it is an extremely important issue to be raised and highlighted too as to the safety of Women, and safety too among those, they should be able to feel safe with.

[bots]

A probationary Met officer involved in the search for Sarah Everard has been removed from duties for allegedly sharing an "inappropriate graphic".

The force said a graphic was shared via social media on Friday and was reported by a number of officers "who were concerned by its content".

The PC has been placed in a non-public facing role and a referral has been made to the police watchdog.

The Met said it expected officers "to behave professionally at all times".

The constable had been deployed as a cordon officer supporting the search operation in Kent, but they have been "placed in a non-public facing role while inquiries continue".

"Given the context of the officer's duties at the time, a voluntary referral has been made to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) in relation to this matter," the force said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56409029

[arista]

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

A probationary Met officer involved in the search for Sarah Everard has been removed from duties for allegedly sharing an "inappropriate graphic".

The force said a graphic was shared via social media on Friday and was reported by a number of officers "who were concerned by its content".

The PC has been placed in a non-public facing role and a referral has been made to the police watchdog.

The Met said it expected officers "to behave professionally at all times".

The constable had been deployed as a cordon officer supporting the search operation in Kent, but they have been "placed in a non-public facing role while inquiries continue".

"Given the context of the officer's duties at the time, a voluntary referral has been made to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) in relation to this matter," the force said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56409029

...this is weird, I read it yesterday...it was apparently something that was shared/sent on WhatsApp...the ‘graphic’ was said to relate to some aspects of the search which were inappropriate to share and had been reported as such...

[arista]

The Evil Copper
goes for a plea on the 9th of July.

Then Court Trial in October

[Ammi]

...why the delay for the plea, is that generally what happens...does his lawyer have to have time to get a ‘defence’ together before his plea ...?....I mean does that indicate that it’s hoping for a not guilty plea for him...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...why the delay for the plea, is that generally what happens...does his lawyer have to have time to get a ‘defence’ together before his plea ...?....I mean does that indicate that it’s hoping for a not guilty plea for him...

Yes it is Crazy.

[arista]

The Judge set a plea hearing date for
Friday 9 July and a provisional trial for
Monday 25 October.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56404030

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

That vile bully didn't care when she drove people to suicidal thoughts, I don't want to hear about her fake ass emotional pleas for press coverage, especially when she's using a murder case to do so.