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Christmas Lights · 17-03-2021, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB

Who cares

her critics are way more obsessed than she would ever be. More outraged by a poc than a nonce says a lot

Yep and he doesn't need to worry about sweating or not ,as the heat is off him for as long as possible

. It's more important to chase Meghan and Harry with flames & pitchforks .

Marsh. · 17-03-2021, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you spend too much time imagining you may well miss the real stuff!

If you actually addressed a topic instead of dancing around it, you may well break a record.

Rustic bauble · 17-03-2021, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean he also told his wife he didn't enjoy cock for like 30 years

He is voicing public opinion....big difference of course.

Christmas Dynasnow · 17-03-2021, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

If you actually addressed a topic instead of dancing around it, you may well break a record.

That is not productive

jet · 17-03-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't have a personal judgement of Harry and Meghan either way though, my judgement is reserved purely for the garbage press (it's a common TiBB theme for me) and the people who have worrying one-sided fantasies that it's realistic that in a family squabble, one person is likely to be "the monster behind it all!".

I don't "prefer" Harry and Meghan as people to any of the other Royals, I've said that it's clear Harry adores his granny etc. and it's a shame that their relationship is damaged. I think William and kate - as far as the megarich go - seem like genuinely decent people too. The middle tier (Liz's kids) are a mess but

everyone has known that for decades.

I actually don't think the internal family drama is anything like as "huge" as people seeking drama like to make out.

The problem is the reporting, that's what I judge, along with people who are hoodwinked into a witch-hunt off the back of their own prejudices.

You have opinions on everything but not on H&M themselves? You aren't hoodwinking me TS, with all your excuses and 'explanations' for the obvious contradictions and lies in the interview.

And there is nothing wrong with Liz's kids Princess Anne and Prince Edward I'll have you know.

Marsh. · 17-03-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

He is voicing public opinion.

Except when he didn't say what you agree with, then he was an "admirer" or sycophant.

Christmas Lights · 17-03-2021, 05:01 PM

There's nothing we didn't already know, William said he'll be speaking to Harry . Seems more like the media wanted juicy gossip and got crumbs Instead,so they're blowing this up when really it's a nonentity.

Christmas Dynasnow · 17-03-2021, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There's nothing we didn't already know, William said he'll be speaking to Harry . Seems more like the media wanted juicy gossip and got crumbs Instead,so they're blowing this up when really it's a nonentity.

Which media specifically are you referring to?

Rustic bauble · 17-03-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There's nothing we didn't already know, William said he'll be speaking to Harry . Seems more like the media wanted juicy gossip and got crumbs Instead,so they're blowing this up when really it's a nonentity.

You have missed the point. The comment of the conversations being 'unproductive' was deliberately put out there to let everybody know the tone and what those tones implied.
It was that deliberate 'leak' that has made many more people realise how manipulative Meghan is.

Christmas Lights · 17-03-2021, 05:44 PM

Since when was saying 'unproductive' the worst thing ever?.

If Harry said it was 'a great conversation', he'd still be called a liar or accused of hiding his real feelings.

jet · 17-03-2021, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Since when was saying 'unproductive' the worst thing ever?.

If Harry said it was 'a great conversation', he'd still be called a liar or accused of hiding his real feelings.

You are still missing the point.

Christmas Lights · 17-03-2021, 05:50 PM

I'm not missing any point

Christmas Dynasnow · 17-03-2021, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Since when was saying 'unproductive' the worst thing ever?.

If Harry said it was 'a great conversation', he'd still be called a liar or accused of hiding his real feelings.

If you can find anypost in this thread or indeed any media outlet that said

"saying 'unproductive' the worst thing ever?"

Please post it in reply to this post. I think you will shortly find however that you are the only person who has said it

joeysteele · 17-03-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There's nothing we didn't already know, William said he'll be speaking to Harry . Seems more like the media wanted juicy gossip and got crumbs Instead,so they're blowing this up when really it's a nonentity.

This threads off like all the others.
Round and round the usual.

If it had been revealed by Prince William that they'd spoken, in another question from the media.

However Prince Harry and Meghan had never acknowledged that prior.

They'd be getting hammered probably for hiding that Prince William had been in touch.

Saying they had spoken that it was non productive, therefore no real change.
It's easy to understand that.

I agree with you, we've been told not a thing we already didn't know.
Things are as they were before the call.
All we've been told is there's been a call, with no real change, nothing productive from that call.
That's very sad but it's an, 'as things are', update.
That's all.

Parmy · 17-03-2021, 06:17 PM

She needs to grow up.

user104658 · 17-03-2021, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

You have opinions on everything but not on H&M themselves? You aren't hoodwinking me TS, with all your excuses and 'explanations' for the obvious contradictions and lies in the interview.

And there is nothing wrong with Liz's kids Princess Anne and Prince Edward I'll have you know.

I don't think the Oprah interview is great but, as I said at the time, it came across in exactly the same way and with exactly the same format as tonnes of "celeb interviews" I've seen come out of the US going back decades. Is it a great interview format? Not really but it was hardly invented for this interview. Lest we forget Tom Cruise leaping on the couch? It's just the way they do "reality TV" over there - scripting and multiple takes.

On the whole, I believe the jist of what they say: they were unhappy, they were unsupported d by the family (who were just frustrated with thte complaining), they have a terrible toxic relationship with the UK press and have for a long time (cucked gammon Piers Morgan playing no small role in catalysing that) and also Harry's issues with the press (and his father) are his own and predate Meghan Markle... So the obsessive focus on her as a villain is unfair, creepy, and misogynistic (amongst other things).

Parmy · 17-03-2021, 06:25 PM

Piers or pissy pant man, whatever hes called these days..well he loved her to begin with..in the early days he was nothing but full of praise for Moanghan moankle

Cherry Christmas · 17-03-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Piers or pissy pant man, whatever hes called these days..well he loved her to begin with..in the early days he was nothing but full of praise for Moanghan moankle

Rustic bauble · 17-03-2021, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

This threads off like all the others.
Round and round the usual.

If it had been revealed by Prince William that they'd spoken, in another question from the media.

However Prince Harry and Meghan had never acknowledged that prior.

They'd be getting hammered probably for hiding that Prince William had been in touch.

Saying they had spoken that it was non productive, therefore no real change.
It's easy to understand that.

I agree with you, we've been told not a thing we already didn't know.
Things are as they were before the call.
All we've been told is there's been a call, with no real change, nothing productive from that call.
That's very sad but it's an, 'as things are', update.
That's all.

So....
William asked by a reporter “Have you spoken to Harry” ..yes I will be speaking to him at the weekend.
Compared to
Meghan volunteering the information to a TV presenter about their conversation being “unproductive“ and giving her permission to disclose it...
Two completely different scenarios...