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rusticgal · 22-03-2021, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

When the accusations of Meghan's bullying came out and how the women were still traumatized, for some it was all 'Huh, what timing to bring this out now'!
They didn't give a hoot about those women.

Yet when Meghan says she suffered, even if the thing you didn't believe was that she was refused help, it was "You don't believe her! You are stopping other people from seeking help by your attitude!'
The hypocrisy and false 'caring' is laughable.

You are so right Jet....not ONE person gave them any sympathy on their mental health.

Marsh. · 22-03-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

When the accusations of Meghan's bullying came out and how the women were still traumatized, for some it was all 'Huh, what timing to bring this out now'!
They didn't give a hoot about those women.

Another blatant lie. The criticism was aimed at the Palace's timing of their investigation into said allegations. They'd had YEARS to "investigate". The allegations were not anything new at that point.

user104658 · 22-03-2021, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are so right Jet....not ONE person gave them any sympathy on their mental health.

Completely overlooking the fact that they reported it and it was brushed under the carpet, not by Harry and Meghan but by the people who they complained to and who were responsible for dealing with it... do you not think those people have some responsibility for it being so "traumatic"?

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Just like with the army, you have no idea about anyone else's mental health struggles and the only reason you are rubbishing Meghan's is because of who she is which is sick.

Hear this, Sheriff. You do not know these people, you do not know what's in the mind of your loved ones, never mind what's going on in the head of a stranger that you only think you know because you take tabloid gossip as gospel.

Stop preaching, I can post what I like.

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Completely overlooking the fact that they reported it and it was brushed under the carpet, not by Harry and Meghan but by the people who they complained to and who were responsible for dealing with it... do you not think those people have some responsibility for it being so "traumatic"?

Exactly the point I made. I was very sympathetic to the ladies actually, it doesn't fit the current narrative but I said the Palace had failed in their duty of care to their employees which includes their mental health.

arista · 22-03-2021, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

You didn't say anything, a statement is worthless in a debate without any kind of logic or reasoning behind it.

Dezzy you are better than this.

arista · 22-03-2021, 04:13 PM

My own Warning from the first post
in order to try to keep the thread alive

On this new thread
there is no need to attack posters for their views/

Attack Meghan/Harry or William
I say.

Ammi · 22-03-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Exactly the point I made. I was very sympathetic to the ladies actually, it doesn't fit the current narrative but I said the Palace had failed in their duty of care to their employees which includes their mental health.

...I believe that was the general thing said, that the Royal establishment had failed in their care of both Meghan and the Royal staff if it’s something that the investigation proves to have truth in it..the Royal establishment are really not looking great atm in any aspect of their care...but there is ‘fury’ at anything negative against them...

jet · 22-03-2021, 04:22 PM

I also said they were wrong in covering it up. Many times. It was said it was done to protect Meghan's reputation. Non disclosure agreements etc. But once again, that is what is being highlighted most, as happened originally as well.

Its as if accusations of Meghan bullying these women to the point that they were driven out of their jobs doesn't matter - look away! look at what the palace did!!

Jordan. · 22-03-2021, 04:24 PM

of course Meghan is at the core of all the palaces failings, who knew a newcomer would have such influence.

Liam- · 22-03-2021, 04:29 PM

If a random American actress could weasel her way into the family and single handedly bring the monarchy to its knees, like people claim she has done, then I’m sorry to break it to you pals, but that would mean it wasn’t very strong in the first place

Glenn. · 22-03-2021, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

If a random American actress could weasel her way into the family and single handedly bring the monarchy to its knees, like people claim she has done, then I’m sorry to break it to you pals, but that would mean it wasn’t very strong in the first place

Ammi · 22-03-2021, 04:33 PM

...no it’s about an investigation not having taking place yet, which should have taken place 3 yrs ago by an outside party...let’s not make our own narratives beyond that, the tabloid media do very well on their own in inventing their own stories to fit what they think they are...

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

I also said they were wrong in covering it up. Many times. It was said it was done to protect Meghan's reputation. Non disclosure agreements etc. But once again, that is what is being highlighted most, as happened originally as well.

Its as if accusations of Meghan bullying these women to the point that they were driven out of their jobs doesn't matter - look away! look at what the palace did!!

That's not what people said. I, at the time, said that bullying should not be tolerated and certainly not swept under the carpet. You said at the time it was covered up because Harry begged them too, as his mental state was quite fragile, which actually lends itself to what was said in the Oprah interview.

You have changed narrative though and said that no one worried about the ladies mental health and that is not true, I and others did say about the lack of care they received. At the moment we know that to be true, until the investigation is complete we are unaware about what, if any, bullying happened as it was not investigated.

rusticgal · 22-03-2021, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Completely overlooking the fact that they reported it and it was brushed under the carpet, not by Harry and Meghan but by the people who they complained to and who were responsible for dealing with it... do you not think those people have some responsibility for it being so "traumatic"?

I agree they should have dealt with it...they brushed it under the carpet it seems to avoid putting Meghan in a bad light.
The point was that the righteous people on here that think its despicable to doubt Meghans mental health showed no sympathy for Meghans accusers and focused more on the 'timing' of the complaint.

Parmy · 22-03-2021, 04:38 PM

You just couldnt have a conversation with harry anymore cause you would be fearful of the slithering snake running off to the press with the latest bit of gossip to keep his sorry state and his pitiful yearning for tv fame in the limelight.

Block him willie.

Glenn. · 22-03-2021, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

You just couldnt have a conversation with harry anymore cause you would be fearful of the slithering snake running off to the press with the latest bit of gossip to keep his sorry state and his pitiful yearning for tv fame in the limelight.

Block him willie.

Wills friends are okay to do it though yes?

rusticgal · 22-03-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Stop preaching, I can post what I like.

You can...just like the people that defend her to the hilt but dont know her either.
Some people just cannot grasp the understand debate is based on OPINION..

user104658 · 22-03-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

I also said they were wrong in covering it up. Many times. It was said it was done to protect Meghan's reputation. Non disclosure agreements etc. But once again, that is what is being highlighted most, as happened originally as well.

Hmmm nonono but that doesn't stack up under a little scrutiny, does it. They kept it under wraps while Meghan was a representative of the Royal Family... now that she is no longer considered such, it's a free-for-all on that information. Thus, it was covered up to protect the reputation of the active Royal Family and Meghan's reputation outside of that is of little concern. I don't see how there's an argument to the contrary there.

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Its as if accusations of Meghan bullying these women to the point that they were driven out of their jobs doesn't matter - look away! look at what the palace did!!

It does matter but it's not entirely irrelevant to the discussion; Meghan being hard on staff is bad, it doesn't reflect well on her, but it has literally nothing to do with anything they've said about the family or their time as Senior Royals. It is the definition of ad hominem; trying to argue that their allegations can't be accurate "because she bad person look". It absolutely should be looked into - but it should have been looked into at the time.

jet · 22-03-2021, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

If a random American actress could weasel her way into the family and single handedly bring the monarchy to its knees, like people claim she has done, then I’m sorry to break it to you pals, but that would mean it wasn’t very strong in the first place

She's hardly going to do any lasting damage to the monarchy, not a chance.

A not very successful actress who wanted everything done her way and flounced off in a major strop when it became obvious that 'what Meghan wants Meghan gets' was only heeded by Harry....and she's still eaten up with bitterness or she would never had done such an interview. The more she goes on about how bad they were to her, the more people will turn away.

I don't know how any future businesses working with her could ever trust her not to damn them in public if they don't tow her line. Poison.

Glenn. · 22-03-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

She's hardly going to do any lasting damage to the monarchy, not a chance.

A not very successful actress who wanted everything done her way and flounced off in a major strop when it became obvious that 'what Meghan wants Meghan gets' was only heeded by Harry....and she's still eaten up with bitterness or she would never had done such an interview. The more she goes on about how bad they were to her, the more people will turn away.

I don't know how any future businesses working with her could ever trust her not to damn them in public if they don't tow her line. Poison.

She must be if she’s managed to manipulate this entire situation from the start like you claim she has.

jet · 22-03-2021, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

That's not what people said. I, at the time, said that bullying should not be tolerated and certainly not swept under the carpet. You said at the time it was covered up because Harry begged them too, as his mental state was quite fragile, which actually lends itself to what was said in the Oprah interview.

You have changed narrative though and said that no one worried about the ladies mental health and that is not true, I and others did say about the lack of care they received. At the moment we know that to be true, until the investigation is complete we are unaware about what, if any, bullying happened as it was not investigated.

I wasn't referring to you Annie, I was referring to those who focused on the cover up and gave no thought to the women concerned - and it DID happen.

Jordan. · 22-03-2021, 04:49 PM

Meghan was reportedly making $50,000 for every episode of the series, and had an annual salary of roughly $450,000.

"not very successful" - jet

Ammi · 22-03-2021, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

I wasn't referring to you Annie, I was referring to those who focused on the cover up and gave no thought to the women concerned - and it DID happen.

.... most people on the forum to my recollection showed huge concern for the duty of care to both a Royal family member and to staff members so I’ll presume that you’re referring to social media comments or such like...because that wasn’t the vein on here...the Royal family showed great neglect to not have the accusations investigated fully at the time....