Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-04-2021, 06:00 PM #76
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy View Post
Rubbishing someone's admittance of suicidal thoughts and mental health struggles on a massive platform such as morning tv is completely vile and goes way beyond having 'a valid opinion' especially with how much stigma can still be attached to speaking about things like that.

And no he isn't speaking for the majority of the public at all, as well as the 57,000 complaints his rant about Meghans mental health got all you have to do is read through some article comments elsewhere online lately and you will see there's as much people completely disagree with him as well as the people that have done a complete uturn due to his ongoing obsessive behaviour.
As I said before, Morgan made in clear he was referring to her being refused help from the Royals, which is frankly not in the least believable, not that he disbelieved she suffered mental health problems....why is that overlooked?
It depends where you read whether people disagree with him or not.
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:05 PM #77
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,293


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,293


Default

This were I stand regardless of piers and anyone else.
Do I believe them,no
Do I trust them, no

From the interview alone it has been proven they have told their version of the truth from the actual one.

And the idea that Meghan was suicidal and her and Harry couldn’t get any help is the biggest and most disgusting lie in my eyes.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:15 PM #78
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

So whatever Morgan's motives, which has been done to death now, what about Markle's disgusting and unproven allegations and her outright lies? What have those who think he is vile (which is a valid opinion obviously if that is what some think, I must add) think about her (and Harry's) behaviour?
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:16 PM #79
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
Then he has behaved 'unprofessionally' hundreds of times, because he gets het up about many people and things, very very often. Have you ever watched the show? Strange that its only when Markle gets on the phone that he's fired. Or should I say 'cancelled'. She attempted to get the Royals cancelled too, remember, with her lies.
She's trouble with a capital T.

I thought you said you were opting out? Hmmm....

It’s unprofessional because of his previous friendship/personal relationship with her, not because he “gets het up”. It’s called conflict of interests, and it’s not a particularly difficult concept to understand, for anyone, let alone an experienced journalist, so again, he knows fine well his conduct was unprofessional.

I’ve temporarily opted in against my better judgement.
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:17 PM #80
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
So whatever Morgan's motives, which has been done to death now, what about Markle's disgusting and unproven allegations and her outright lies? What have those who think he is vile (which is a valid opinion obviously if that is what some think, I must add) think about her (and Harry's) behaviour?

You’re going to have to be more specific because if you’re pretending these things haven’t been addressed multiple times on here, you are mistaken.
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:19 PM #81
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Still really trying to pretend this didn't happen eh





"I mean, I knew her for about a year and a half... got on really well with her or whatever and then BANG! She met someone more important... immediately ghosted... I never heard from her again... the old slippery-slope ladder had gone up and she had climbed her way out of my orbit. So my experience WASN'T GREAT", he spits, "I've got to be honest with you".

Sad, sad, bitter chap. It's a shame really.
Marsh. is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:28 PM #82
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
You’re going to have to be more specific because if you’re pretending these things haven’t been addressed multiple times on here, you are mistaken.
So has Morgan's behaviour. Doesn't stop any of us.

Take your pick on M&H's lies, or don't.
I'm opting out for a few hours. A good film awaits.
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:31 PM #83
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
It’s unprofessional because of his previous friendship/personal relationship with her, not because he “gets het up”. It’s called conflict of interests, and it’s not a particularly difficult concept to understand, for anyone, let alone an experienced journalist, so again, he knows fine well his conduct was unprofessional.

I’ve temporarily opted in against my better judgement.
and did you say that when he had a go at Clarkson, Sugar, Cowell, Ant and Dec - he knows most celebs these days from his career and calls them all out if they lie or behave badly


His job was to report news and give opinion

its farcical to pretend he was the main news anchor on ITV
LeatherTrumpet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:33 PM #84
Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Marsh. Marsh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 79,984


Default

Nobody called him the “main news anchor”. That would massively overestimate his skill set.
Marsh. is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:34 PM #85
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 View Post
This were I stand regardless of piers and anyone else.
Do I believe them,no
Do I trust them, no

From the interview alone it has been proven they have told their version of the truth from the actual one.

And the idea that Meghan was suicidal and her and Harry couldn’t get any help is the biggest and most disgusting lie in my eyes.
its even more monstrous to then take on the "roles" Harry has

its downright evil in my opinion
LeatherTrumpet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 06:45 PM #86
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,293


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 14,293


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
its even more monstrous to then take on the "roles" Harry has

its downright evil in my opinion
Two strong willed driven people Harry serving in the army being in a combat zone and he couldn’t get his suicidal wife any help.

It’s an insult to people’s intelligence.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 07:29 PM #87
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
and did you say that when he had a go at Clarkson, Sugar, Cowell, Ant and Dec - he knows most celebs these days from his career and calls them all out if they lie or behave badly


His job was to report news and give opinion

its farcical to pretend he was the main news anchor on ITV

He wasn’t taking Ant and Dec out for cozy dinners and then going home to fap off over Saturday Night Take Away or whinging about being ghosted by Simon Cowell though was he .
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 08:18 PM #88
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
He wasn’t taking Ant and Dec out for cozy dinners and then going home to fap off over Saturday Night Take Away or whinging about being ghosted by Simon Cowell though was he .
The ratings didn't shoot up when he was about to give off about Ant and Dec or Simon Cowell though, did they? They sure did with hot topic H&M though and he did his job by giving the opinions he was paid to give. It's not as if ITV didn't expect a tirade from him beforehand given the very controversial interview, eh?
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 08:25 PM #89
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
The ratings didn't shoot up when he was about to give off about Ant and Dec or Simon Cowell though, did they? They sure did with hot topic H&M though and he did his job by giving the opinions he was paid to give. It's not as if ITV didn't expect a tirade from him beforehand given the very controversial interview, eh?

Are you suggesting that his unprofessional conduct doesn’t matter because he brought in good ratings?
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 08:59 PM #90
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,460


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,460


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 View Post
Two strong willed driven people Harry serving in the army being in a combat zone and he couldn’t get his suicidal wife any help.

It’s an insult to people’s intelligence.

.....along with Harry’s association with Mental Health groups and campaigns...but people still want to believe their bull****.
rusticgal is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 09:50 PM #91
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy View Post
Exactly

We are supposed to take him at his word because he doesn't want to name anyone yet he was the one saying Meghan should name the Royal Racist
Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?

I find that strange
LeatherTrumpet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 09:59 PM #92
AnnieK's Avatar
AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14,254


AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
AnnieK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14,254


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?

I find that strange
Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****
__________________
AnnieK is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 10:09 PM #93
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnieK View Post
Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****
One is a huge accusation in one one is being modest


Wtaf??
LeatherTrumpet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 10:24 PM #94
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
The voice of reason
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 94,883


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnieK View Post
Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****
Are you saying piers said this and the royal family won't deny even though it's a lie??

The queen??
LeatherTrumpet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:04 PM #95
Josy's Avatar
Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,929


Josy Josy is offline
Senior Member
Josy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 59,929


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Why are you laughing between an accusation if racism and a positive call of support?



I find that strange
I'm laughing at the hypocrisy
Josy is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:05 PM #96
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Are you suggesting that his unprofessional conduct doesn’t matter because he brought in good ratings?
A TV programme wanting big ratings? Never! Morgan was doing what he has been doing for years, giving his unvarnished, honest reactions to the actions of anyone from government ministers to celebrities in his bullish style, which is why 360,000 people had signed a petition as of 20th March for him to be reinstated.
ITV knew what they were getting but got off scot free by asking him to apologize to Markle or leave. Kudo’s to him for saying he wasn’t going to apologize for what he believed, for that would make him a liar.

Do you think that Markle's lies and BS don't matter because the interview brought in big ratings, raised M&H's profile with Americans and lined Oprah's already stuffed pockets?
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:14 PM #97
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnieK View Post
Because both could be the truth or both could be bulll****. Piers called for names from meghan than refused to give these so called royals who thanked him. Why??? I call bull****
Because it doesn't really matter which royal/royals called him, does it?
But it does matter when an allegation of racism in the royal family leads to disgracefully unfair suspicion being cast on innocent members with the resulting speculation caused by not giving the name.

Last edited by jet; 07-04-2021 at 11:16 PM.
jet is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:37 PM #98
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
the royal family won't deny even though it's a lie??
Never Explain Never Complain right? They won’t say either way
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:43 PM #99
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default Harry and Meghan - Official Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet View Post
Morgan was doing what he has been doing for years, giving his unvarnished, honest reactions to the actions of anyone from government ministers to celebrities in his bullish style

No he wasn’t because - again - he doesn’t have a personal history with those people nor does he feel like he’s been personally wronged by them in the past, resulting in bitterness, bias and having an axe to grind.

We can carry on pretending that his previous - well documented, from his own mouth in his own words - friendship with Meghan didn’t happen or wasn’t a factor but it’s just getting silly at this point. There are videos of him - not hearsay, not rumours, not “reports” - freely talking about how he felt ghosted, wronged and hurt and you’d have to be extremely naive to believe that his dented ego isn’t a large part of this story, and didn’t massively play into the behaviour that got him dismissed.

It’s fantasy land stuff. The videos are right there, and there are countless more.

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 07-04-2021 at 11:43 PM.
Toy Soldier is offline  
Old 07-04-2021, 11:45 PM #100
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
jet jet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 12,871

Favourites (more):
BB17: Andy
BB14: Dan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josy View Post

And no he isn't speaking for the majority of the public at all, as well as the 57,000 complaints his rant about Meghans mental health got all you have to do is read through some article comments elsewhere online lately and you will see there's as much people completely disagree with him as well as the people that have done a complete uturn due to his ongoing obsessive behaviour.
360,000 people signed to have him reinstated.
57, 000 complaints.
He is speaking for a majority.
UGov Polls also show that Meghan is disliked by a large majority, I've posted them as they appear.
jet is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
cost, discussion, harry, meghan, official, security, taxpayer, thread, visit


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts