[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Was Meghan meant to sit and shut up at all the racist abuse and verbal insults

Sadly I think that is what some expect. That is why the outrage is so much more directed towards Meghan than Harry. Sexism.

[Tom4784]

Bigotry has always been a huge factor behind the hatred for Meghan, I think it's why most of the time, people seem to invent reasons to hate her, because they can't admit the real reasons are bigoted in nature. It's better to pretend she insulted the Queen or Prince Phillip then admit that the reason for the hate is because of her race, gender and/or her nationality.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

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the reason for the hate is because of her race, gender and/or her nationality.

Thats how you like to see it....and maybe there are some that do but not on here. Meghan has done a number of things to give people a reason to dislike her and its nothing to do with her Race, Gender or Nationality.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Thats how you like to see it....and maybe there are some that do but not on here. Meghan has done a number of things to give people a reason to dislike her and its nothing to do with her Race, Gender or Nationality.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Thats how you like to see it....and maybe there are some that do but not on here. Meghan has done a number of things to give people a reason to dislike her and its nothing to do with her Race, Gender or Nationality.

It's more interesting that you felt the need to clarify your own position, if the situation was reversed, I wouldn't feel the need to clarify because I knew a post like that wouldn't apply to me.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's more interesting that you felt the need to clarify your own position, if the situation was reversed, I wouldn't feel the need to clarify because I knew a post like that wouldn't apply to me.

[Cherie]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...-have-23908802

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have "regrets" over the unfortunate timing of their interview with Oprah Winfrey, but insist they had no control over when it was aired.

Their explosive interview aired while Prince Philip was in hospital and Harry's grandfather has since passed away.

But while Meghan and Harry regret the timing of the interview, it is something they felt they had to do, a source close to the pair told Heat Magazine.

Harry had not seen the Duke of Edinburgh in over a year following his decision to quit the Royal Family and his life in the UK.

But he did have a close bond with the 99-year-old and spoke highly of him in the tell-all discussion with the US presenter.

And now a source close to Meghan and Harry has told how the Duke and Duchess of Sussex "wish things could have been different".

Oh dear, I thought it was all about control

[thesheriff443]

The interview went down like a lead balloon and now they are back tracking

[thesheriff443]

Harry and William will not stand together at the funeral Peter Philips prince Anne’s son will stand between them on the wishes of the queen
And no one will wear military uniforms instead they will wear there medals on morning coats
Some say it’s to spare Harry as he would be the only one not in uniform

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Harry and William will not stand together at the funeral Peter Philips prince Anne’s son will stand between them on the wishes of the queen
And no one will wear military uniforms instead they will wear there medals on morning coats
Some say it’s to spare Harry as he would be the only one not in uniform

Bit odd? If it was out of choice that would be one thing, maybe it is and saying it was Liz's decision is an excuse, but strange to say they've not to stand together if they would have chosen to? It also means we'll never know - but will lead to speculation about the "OMG big rift" because they're not standing together - because most people won't be aware that they didn't get the choice .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Bit odd? If it was out of choice that would be one thing, maybe it is and saying it was Liz's decision is an excuse, but strange to say they've not to stand together if they would have chosen to? It also means we'll never know - but will lead to speculation about the "OMG big rift" because they're not standing together - because most people won't be aware that they didn't get the choice .

Do we ever really get the full story, I’d say definitely no we don’t

William will be king one day maybe he has said something and to be honest you can see him and his dad being p1ssed off at harry

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Do we ever really get the full story, I’d say definitely no we don’t

William will be king one day maybe he has said something and to be honest you can see him and his dad being p1ssed off at harry

If we're going to have kings and queens at all, I don't think we want a petty king who holds grudges? But that's what I mean really; it would be interesting to know if it really was The Queen's decision, or if it was someone else's decision but they think it sounds better if it's put down to "Boss's choice".

[LeatherTrumpet]

At least here in Scotland we dont have petty squabbles and grudges and people going off and leaving and doing their own thing

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

At least here in Scotland we dont have petty squabbles and grudges and people going off and leaving and doing their own thing

Have you seen the Alba party political ad where they're "endorsed by Robert the Bruce"? Someone is trolling.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If we're going to have kings and queens at all, I don't think we want a petty king who holds grudges? But that's what I mean really; it would be interesting to know if it really was The Queen's decision, or if it was someone else's decision but they think it sounds better if it's put down to "Boss's choice".

To others it may seem petty but in reality his own brother and his wife accused his family of being racist and William was asked if his family was racist on an official engagement
Harry went on to rubbish his father Charles.

And they have disrespected the queen with the blatant digs about a life of service.

[bitontheslide]

Andrew isn't entitled to wear military uniform either as he stepped down from public duties. I would think the no uniform was more for his benefit

Also, the whole military thing doesn't match with the family funeral concept

[Marsh.]

Well I'd be more concerned about the racist stopping being racist than trying to shut the black woman up who experienced it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well I'd be more concerned about the racist stopping being racist than trying to shut the black woman up who experienced it.

an innocent remark isnt racism

in many ways it just devalues actual racial hatred

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

To others it may seem petty but in reality his own brother and his wife accused his family of being racist and William was asked if his family was racist on an official engagement
Harry went on to rubbish his father Charles.

And they have disrespected the queen with the blatant digs about a life of service.

Maybe but I think it must be amplified by their positions or people see it that way, because it's not beyond (and actually in many ways far less than) what you'll see in pretty much any family. Families say the actual WORST **** about each other and still get together for Sunday dinner... I don't think it's unacceptable to have criticisms of your family... and I don't think Harry's criticisms of his family are particularly huge. I'm sure they have criticisms of him - that's fine too.

As for the digs about service, I don't really know that it was a dig. They pointed out that no one needs an official role or title to live a life of service, which is true, and surely only a positive message. It doesn't mean that The Queen hasn't lived one or shouldn't have, it doesn't downplay the actions or achievements of any of them, it's just pointing out that you can still do that without it being an official position .

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

an innocent remark isnt racism

in many ways it just devalues actual racial hatred

No; a racist remark doesn't necessarily indicate a racist PERSON but that doesn't mean you ignore the remark. In fact, anyone who is not a racist person should surely be glad to hear that something they've said could come across as racist, so that they consider their words more carefully in future?

As the parent of a disabled child this is something I encounter all the time; even well-meaning people can say some really offensive crap about learning disability without any idea that it's ill conceived. Some of the worst of it has come from family members awkwardly struggling to ask things. I'd rather correct them then just think "Aww well they meant well and didn't mean anything bad by it so I'll just let it slide". If they weren't trying to offend, then they don't WANT to offend, so you should tell them it didn't come across well?

[bitontheslide]

Harry and Meghan can consider themselves fortunate that the queen doesn't have the power that Henry 8th had, he would have sorted the "disagreement" out swiftly

[joeysteele]

Nothing to read in William and Harry being not walking together side by side.
They are walking side by side with Prince Philip, one more to the right of Prince Philip, the other more to the Left of him.

I have 3 Brothers, when my Father died, we wanted to help carry his coffin.
We chose the oldest and me the youngest to do so, one of us on the right side, the other on the left.
My other 2 Brothers walked behind into the Church.

So I read it as Prince Philips Grandsons are there one at his right, one at his left, another in the centre.
Actually in my view highly respectful and appropriate too.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Harry and Meghan can consider themselves fortunate that the queen doesn't have the power that Henry 8th had, he would have sorted the "disagreement" out swiftly

The elephant in the room there is that they wouldn't have gotten married, nor been allowed to pursue a relationship at all beyond a secret physical one, in the first place.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

an innocent remark isnt racism

in many ways it just devalues actual racial hatred

You were there were you?

No. Didn't think so.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If we're going to have kings and queens at all, I don't think we want a petty king who holds grudges? But that's what I mean really; it would be interesting to know if it really was The Queen's decision, or if it was someone else's decision but they think it sounds better if it's put down to "Boss's choice".

We don't don't what the grudge is about, I believe Harry was speaking about Wills when he mentioned Archies skin colour

I think it it too soon to mend bridges, and the Queen has diplomatically taken the decision, though in truth obviously neither of them wanted to stand side by side