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unless for some reason you did not see a potential fatal stabbing? |
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I actually do think that in this case it comes down more to the policing methods than anything else. Watching the video, and going by what I know of standard US police tactics, the officer won't be found to have acted wrongly; she was armed, she was about to use it on someone else, police in the US are taught to shoot the armed person in that scenario.
However, in the UK (and in MANY other countries) this entire situation would have been handled differently, they're trained to disarm and apprehend people with knives and other weapons without anyone getting killed, and in this exact scenario it's likely that NO ONE would have died. To people who think the officer had no choice; does the UK police not deal with knife crime every single day? Do not they do so every day without firearms? And are people often killed because of the lack of guns? Basically I'm saying that in most places, this situation (teens getting violent, weapons being present) would have been handled differently by necessity and thus it is perfectly possible to handle these situations without shots being fired. Again it comes down to police in the US being trained too quickly, their methods being too basic, and the constant "one size fits all" solution of using their guns. The UK police have tonnes of training in how to handle violent situations without it ending badly. In the US it seems to be; 1) Point gun and make threats, 2) If that doesn't work pull the trigger. |
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Why do they always have to shoot to kill though?....I obviously get it if someone is armed with a gun and shooting people...otherwise surely a bullet in the leg will immobolise them without killing them. |
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If the person is a danger you immobilise the problem, not irrationally spray bullets at them. It just shows that the police are not mentally stable enough to handle a gun if they can’t keep a cool head when needed. |
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By the time the uk police deal with a knife crime there is a dead teenager on the street already. |
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In the same period in the US there were over 1000 fatal police shootings and over 20,000 gun-related killings total. It's plain as day that disarming both the police and the population is the only answer. |
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it's almost impossible to shoot someone to disable them. It requires extreme levels of skill and a calm environment, so it's just not a realistic option. If a policeman shoots you in any country, they intend to kill you.
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He could have just tackled her to the ground, not shoot her.
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It's definitely a race issue.
Because I doubt they would have shot to kill a white person. Even if they were armed.
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Imagine assuming a person is 'high on drugs' based on nothing but the colour of their skin, some people are really letting their white hoods show.
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The police are more likely to show restraint to a white mass shooter than they will any black person. The system is broken. |
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I cant see whats too difficult to shoot someone in the leg...either that or use the stun gun.... |
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Too many of the police seem to be TRIGGER HAPPY , and on a deranged power trip. The sheer ignorance and incompetence that they keep showing is beyond infuriating. But what can we expect from the land of the gun nuts .
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It's almost impossible to shoot to DEFINITELY disable as aim is never that precise any gunshot wound carries a risk of death (because arteries) - BUT if you shoot someone once in the shoulder or a limb they have a decent chance of survival. If you shoot someone three times center mass they're almost certainly going to die.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/
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White: 60.1% (Non-Hispanic) Hispanic: 18.5% Black: 12.2% Asian: 5.6% And then : In an analysis of 4,653 fatal shootings for which information about both race and age were available, the researchers found a small but statistically significant decline in white deaths (about 1%) but no significant change in deaths for BIPOC. There were 5,367 fatal police shootings during that five-year period, according to the Post’s database. In the case of armed victims, Native Americans were killed by police at a rate three times that of white people (77 total killed). Black people were killed at 2.6 times the rate of white people (1,265 total killed); and Hispanics were killed at nearly 1.3 times the rate of white people (889 total killed). Among unarmed victims, Black people were killed at three times the rate (218 total killed), and Hispanics at 1.45 times the rate of white people (146 total killed). “Those killed by police on average are young people — the average age for all victims is 34,” Boatright said. “For Black people, the average age is 30.” For Hispanics killed, the average age is 33; for Native Americans, 31; and for white people, 38. https://news.yale.edu/2020/10/27/rac...d-over-5-years
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There's been 'incidents' of people sleeping in bed and getting senselessly killed, why because the police either got the wrong address or they assumed the worst as usual. |
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Yeah gun laws must be a factor too, they have such a weird relationship with guns over there
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Time and time again we hear about shootings in America, and we all just think sigh . It doesn't even shock us anymore ![]() Last edited by GoldHeart; 22-04-2021 at 04:35 PM. |
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Thats the one I found. |
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You know my methods
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Limbs move fast, are thin and are very difficult to hit they also do NOT stop people from doing what they are doing ALL armed Police aim for the torso and shoot to KILL |
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