[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not if you teach them proper lore as I’ve suggested.

So long as we don't mention Zwarte Piet. That's insulting apparently. but giving a Scandinavian a black face is okay. The most annoying this about this kind of crap is, I doubt it was a black person who came up with the idea. Disney, founded by a MASSIVE anti-Semite, but never even been considered for cancellation.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Livia

So long as we don't mention Zwarte Piet. That's insulting apparently. but giving a Scandinavian a black face is okay. The most annoying this about this kind of crap is, I doubt it was a black person who came up with the idea. Disney, founded by a MASSIVE anti-Semite, but never even been considered for cancellation.

So you can't tell the difference between zwarte Piet and an actual black santa ? .

'Black Pete' is literally white people doing black face and not caring who they offend , oh and by the way anyone who disagreed with the 'tradition' got death threats.. ( how lovely eh) bet you didn't know that ?, there was silent protests around it .

Santa can be any race , he could even been a woman in a fake white beard ,why does it matter . plus they'll always be a million old white men dressed as Santa , that's the image everyone always sees .

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

So you can't tell the difference between zwarte Piet and an actual black santa ? .

'Black Pete' is literally white people doing black face and not caring who they offend , oh and by the way anyone who disagreed with the 'tradition' got death threats.. ( how lovely eh) bet you didn't know that ?, there was silent protests around it .

Santa can be any race , he could even been a woman in a fake white beard ,why does it matter . plus they'll always be a million old white men dressed as Santa , that's the image everyone always sees .

What do you mean, I can't tell the difference? Bet I didn't know that? Who the bloody hell are you talking to?

Santa is a white man with a white beard who comes from the North Pole. That's the image everyone sees because THAT's what the image is. Try taking folklore figures from other cultures and making them white. See how it plays out.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Livia

What do you mean, I can't tell the difference? Bet I didn't know that? Who the bloody hell are you talking to?

Santa is a white man with a white beard who comes from the North Pole. That's the image everyone sees because THAT's what the image is. Try taking folklore figures from other cultures and making them white. See how it plays out.

Like Jesus? Doesn't seem a problem.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Like Jesus? Doesn't seem a problem.

touché

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Like Jesus? Doesn't seem a problem.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

touché

I'm a Jew. Take it up with the Christians.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a Jew. Take it up with the Christians.

I don't have an issue to take up that seemed to be your thing

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a Jew. Take it up with the Christians.

Why would I take it up with anyone?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I don't have an issue to take up that seemed to be your thing

So you're okay with a white Jesus? Fine... but you're the one who used him as an example.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Imagine getting so angry over a children's folklore
Santa is fictional , did you also have a problem with the new little Mermaid being played by a black actress ? ,seen as originally she was written as a white Danish girl?.

I have a problem with Disney full stop.

I haven't had much to do with you Goldheart, and that's because you post stuff like this. Facepalm yourself.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would I take it up with anyone?

You posted a 'touche' in response to my post. I didn't bring Jesus up.

We're a long way from Zeffirelli's Jesus. Is there anyone alive now who doesn't think that Jesus, if he lived at all, looked like a Middle Eastern Jew? I mean, does anyone imagine he was a white man?

And weren't we talking about Nordic Father Christmas?

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Like Jesus? Doesn't seem a problem.

That apparently seems ok , yet Santa is somehow more offensive

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Livia

What do you mean, I can't tell the difference? Bet I didn't know that? Who the bloody hell are you talking to?

Santa is a white man with a white beard who comes from the North Pole. That's the image everyone sees because THAT's what the image is. Try taking folklore figures from other cultures and making them white. See how it plays out.

Imagine getting so angry over a children's folklore
Santa is fictional , did you also have a problem with the new little Mermaid being played by a black actress ? ,seen as originally she was written as a white Danish girl?.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

So you can't tell the difference between zwarte Piet and an actual black santa ? .

'Black Pete' is literally white people doing black face and not caring who they offend , oh and by the way anyone who disagreed with the 'tradition' got death threats.. ( how lovely eh) bet you didn't know that ?, there was silent protests around it .

Santa can be any race , he could even been a woman in a fake white beard ,why does it matter . plus they'll always be a million old white men dressed as Santa , that's the image everyone always sees .

Not caring who they offend....should read, not caring who they are entertaining whilst on stage.