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Old 16-11-2021, 07:06 AM #26
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vaccine hesitancy is being lumped in with ant vax. Sometimes they merge into 1, other times they are for completely different reasons.

The media and the government are peddling a false narrative in that regard. Vilifying women for being concerned for their unborn child is a pretty low thing to do I think
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This guy thinks that the double jabbed will now become unvaccinated again.

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vaccine hesitancy is being lumped in with ant vax. Sometimes they merge into 1, other times they are for completely different reasons.

The media and the government are peddling a false narrative in that regard. Vilifying women for being concerned for their unborn child is a pretty low thing to do I think
It is, I completely understand pregnant women being hesitant about taking the vaccine, or those thinking about getting pregnant
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There's a combination of factors for pregnant women that make covid a larger concern, coming from both sides, so it's really a very complicated balancing act. The immune system in pregnancy is altered (in order to not reject the growing fetus, which only has half of the mother's DNA so would be at risk of being identified as a problem by a "normal" immune system and that means that just because something is safe for the rest of the population doesn't mean it's safe for pregnant women. Important to note that it's not even that pregnant women aren't immune-suppressed... they are immune-altered so it's not even the same as testing in the immune-suppressed.

On the other hand, the later stages of pregnancy shift internal organs into the chest cavity and limit lung capacity, meaning that if severe symptoms of Covid (or any other respiratory illness) kick in, the pregnant woman is more at risk of respiratory failure. In the very-late stages of pregnancy MUCH more at risk as lung capacity can be very low.

So there are additional risks of vaccination over the average member of the public... but on the other hand, there are additional Covid risks over the average member of the public too. An unenviable position to be in really.
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vaccine hesitancy is being lumped in with ant vax. Sometimes they merge into 1, other times they are for completely different reasons.

The media and the government are peddling a false narrative in that regard. Vilifying women for being concerned for their unborn child is a pretty low thing to do I think

It's not just the media and government, it's the people as well..which is evident in this thread
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Science says that the vaccine is safe for pregnant women, anyone who goes against the science for a fiction that benefits their own narrative is a moron.
Does it say it's safe for their unborn children?
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Pregnant women can also be exempt for medical reasons, but do not have to register.
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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2311...nes-pregnancy/

An interesting article from the British Medical Journal about why so many pregnant women are nervous. There were no early tests on the vaccine - at first science was advising NOT to be vaccinated. I would imagine that the numbers of women taking up the vaccine are now increasing as the data increases from studies that have finally been carried out.
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And absolutely no one is arguing against medical exemptions but if someone who is able to get the vaccine but doesn't just because of bull**** they've read on facebook, then they are an arsehole.
Pregnant women dont need to be medically exempt to be classed as exempt...
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And absolutely no one is arguing against medical exemptions but if someone who is able to get the vaccine but doesn't just because of bull**** they've read on facebook, then they are an arsehole.
But your double jab vaccines are not working.

So, do as £350m for the NHS Brexit Boris tells you and go get your booster.
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98% of any group of people in hospital with covid are unvaccinated surely? Cba to look up stats but this doesn’t seem shocking to me?
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98% of any group of people in hospital with covid are unvaccinated surely? Cba to look up stats but this doesn’t seem shocking to me?
current rate of people in hosp with covid who ARE vaccinated is 35%

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