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Old 03-12-2021, 10:37 AM #26
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Yes and they continued to adore her no matter what she actually did ... this is a prime example of why I'm right

People who liked H&M before the "omg court liiiieeess" still like them.

People who disliked them before have something new to crow about and still dislike them.

People who didn't care before don't care now.

that's the long and short of it.

Yes you are right in what you say....but there are an awful lot of people like myself who DID like her but opinions changed because of the things she has done...probably more so than the examples you have given.
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Yes and they continued to adore her no matter what she actually did ... this is a prime example of why I'm right
You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….
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Massively unpopular yet her career and success goes unfazed. Meghan always wins
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You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….
Who dislikes her now that didn't, let's say, after the Oprah interview.

Note that the argument here isn't "no one who used to like her dislikes her now" - it's that these "lies to the court" have made no real difference no matter how hard some people wish they would.
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You are not right because her popularity has plummeted and many who liked her going back no longer do - and many who adored her are feeling let down and lied to. The WAY they exited the Royal Family, the manipulations, the Oprah interview, the hypocrisies, the many lies, the preaching, the way she treats others turned the majority right off.
Those continuing to adore her no matter what she does….well, I’ll refrain from comment….
Apart from that interview with the Bully Ellen what has she done? Id imagine she is viewed as toxic in the industry right now?
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Apart from that interview with the Bully Ellen what has she done? Id imagine she is viewed as toxic in the industry right now?
"All The Jingle Ladies" is an anagram of "Eldest Anal Hell Jig"
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"All The Jingle Ladies" is an anagram of "Eldest Anal Hell Jig"
You are obsessed with anal.
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Who dislikes her now that didn't, let's say, after the Oprah interview.

Note that the argument here isn't "no one who used to like her dislikes her now" - it's that these "lies to the court" have made no real difference no matter how hard some people wish they would.
Plenty of people, from what I’ve seen and heard. If you don’t listen to the news or read anything other than this forum, then yes, there is nobody that admits she isn’t what they thought she was.
Even her biggest sycophant, Susannah Ried, admitted on air last week that it was getting harder and harder to defend her anymore.
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Sadly its the much younger generation that only seem to have any support for them...a younger generation that love to rebel and have little or no respect for others....
Not a great reflection on their fan base because it reflects everything about them.
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Sadly its the much younger generation that only seem to have any support for them...a younger generation that love to rebel and have little or no respect for others....
Not a great reflection on their fan base because it reflects everything about them.
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Sadly it’s the much older generation that only seem to have any disdain for them.. an older generation that loves to hate and has little or no respect for others...
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Sadly it’s the much older generation that only seem to have any disdain for them.. an older generation that loves to hate and has little or no respect for others...
Thats because the older generation understand respect...they know the difference between right and wrong. They have always had respect for their elders and anyone that deserves it. Harry and Meghan dont know the meaning of the word.
The trouble with the younger generation in general is life is a blame game to many...anything bad that happens to them is everyone elses fault and they never own it themselves. I see it so much and its not pretty.
Its not everyone obviously but it does look like its becoming a trend.
No one 'hates' on Meghan here thats your words and others that cannot respect the fact that others have a different opinion...
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Thats because the older generation understand respect...they know the difference between right and wrong. They have always had respect for their elders and anyone that deserves it. Harry and Meghan dont know the meaning of the word.
The trouble with the younger generation in general is life is a blame game to many...anything bad that happens to them is everyone elses fault and they never own it themselves. I see it so much and its not pretty.
Its not everyone obviously but it does look like its becoming a trend.
No one 'hates' on Meghan here thats your words and others that cannot respect the fact that others have a different opinion...
Well said. It's frighening really how many of the younger generation look up to liars, hypocrites and manipulaters as their heros and heroines. It's all about thumbing their noses at such old fashioned things as decency and principles.
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Thats because the older generation understand respect...they know the difference between right and wrong. They have always had respect for their elders and anyone that deserves it. Harry and Meghan dont know the meaning of the word.
The trouble with the younger generation in general is life is a blame game to many...anything bad that happens to them is everyone elses fault and they never own it themselves. I see it so much and its not pretty.
Its not everyone obviously but it does look like its becoming a trend.
No one 'hates' on Meghan here thats your words and others that cannot respect the fact that others have a different opinion...
Perhaps the older generation should have done a better job at passing on their so called respect. It's no secret both Harry and Meghan’s fathers failed at that.
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Well said. It's frighening really how many of the younger generation look up to liars, hypocrites and manipulaters as their heros and heroines. It's all about thumbing their noses at such old fashioned things as decency and principles.

I think these people see decency and respect as a kind of weakness sadly. How anyone can support their behaviour is beyond me but those that have that mindset to treat people like that....always remember what goes around comes around...and it really does as we have seen with Meghan and Harry.
Anyone who thinks they are successful and happy are blind to the fact that the backlash they have had from the UK and the elite Americans is not what they want and it will eat away at them unless they can turn it around...but thats unlikely as the ugly untrustworthy traits have been well and truly exposed.
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Perhaps the older generation should have done a better job at passing on their so called respect. It's no secret both Harry and Meghan’s fathers failed at that.

Proving the point that its always someone else's fault...
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Proving the point that its always someone else's fault...
We rest our case.
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Proving the point that its always someone else's fault...
It's learned behaviour so yes it is someone else's fault.
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Says the unaware person screeching about the younger generation instead of having self awareness about their own actions and outlook.
Says the unaware person whose hatred and bile against any poster who doesn't agree with them is plain for all to see.
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The court case evidence:

"The crash of Meghan's credibility has been dramatic. Her integrity hangs on a thin thread."

Tom Bower - bio of Meghan due next year.
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The court case evidence:

"The crash of Meghan's credibility has been dramatic. Her integrity hangs on a thin thread."

Tom Bower - bio of Meghan due next year.
Nothing we haven't heard before from those so desperate to see her cancelled
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