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Zizu · 22-12-2021, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Don’t know if this was posted,

Nine out of ten patients in intensive care with covid are unvaccinated and beg for the vaccine

They should show them on telly to help get the message across

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thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

They should show them on telly to help get the message across

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Unfortunately you would still get people saying it’s actors working for the government

Alf · 22-12-2021, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Don’t know if this was posted,

Nine out of ten patients in intensive care with covid are unvaccinated and beg for the vaccine

Went around and counted them all did you?

Alf · 22-12-2021, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

They should show them on telly to help get the message across

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If it were true then they would.

Alf · 22-12-2021, 05:43 AM

bots · 22-12-2021, 06:44 AM

yeah it's the same here. They made a law making covid passports mandatory and yet anyone can catch and pass on omicron or delta ... it serves no purpose .... i cannot deal with the mindless stupidity of the people in charge

Alf · 22-12-2021, 07:10 AM

Youtube video

Nicky91 · 22-12-2021, 08:21 AM

Germany going for stricter measures as of December 28th + a fireworks ban, only one place for fireworks and that is at silvesterparty at brandenburger tor

https://www.thelocal.de/20211221/ger...december-28th/

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz outlined new Covid restrictions to come into force after Christmas, including a cap on the number of people who can socialise and the closure of nightclubs.

Following a meeting with German state leaders on Tuesday, Chancellor Scholz announced contact restrictions would also affect people who are vaccinated or have recovered from Covid-19.

He said private gatherings would be limited to 10 people from December 28th. Children under 14 are not included.

The contact restrictions already in force for the unvaccinated will remain. People who choose not to get vaccinated are allowed to meet with their own household and a max of two people from another household.

“This is not the time for parties and cosy evenings with lots of people,” Scholz said, adding: “I would have liked to share more pleasant news just before the holidays.”

Meanwhile, Germany will ban spectators from large sporting and cultural events also from December 28th. “This applies in particular to football games,” Scholz added.

Nightclubs and discos will also have to close. As agreed at a previous round of talks earlier in December, the sale of fireworks for New Year’s Eve will be banned.

The measures agreed match those put forward in the draft proposals from Monday.

Chancellor Scholz said the measures already put in place in Germany – such as the nationwide restrictions on the unvaccinated – have been successful, and that is shown by the falling number of Covid infections.

But he said said there was a new challenge in the form of the Omicron variant.

Scholz said the aim was to “prepare Germany for the next corona wave”.

He said he understood people who don’t want to hear anything more “about corona, about mutations and new virus variants. But we cannot and must not close our eyes to the wave that is about to come.”

Scholz added: “Even those who have been vaccinated twice and those who have recovered run a high risk of becoming infected.”

Earlier in the day, Germany’s Robert Koch Institute (RKI) had called for tougher measures, including contact restrictions and the closure of restaurants, bars and clubs, to be introduced “immediately”.

But the government and state leaders have gone against this call.

Scholz said past experience had shown events like Christmas and Easter were not proven to be pandemic drivers, and that is why restrictions would come into force after Christmas.

He said people in Germany could enjoy the holiday season with caution and regular Covid testing.

However, states can choose to go further than the restrictions agreed at the federal level. The city state of Hamburg earlier on Tuesday announced it was to bring in Covid restrictions from December 24th.

Scholz said vaccination “remains our goal” so that as many people as possible are protected from Omicron. He said Germany’s target was to reach a vaccination rate of 80 percent. As of Tuesday, 70.4 percent of the population in Germany is fully vaccinated.

The next round of federal and state talks is scheduled to take place at the beginning of January.

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thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Went around and counted them all did you?

No Alf , it’ comes from a doctor

And if admissions are high but the death rate is low compared to when there was no vaccination it tells you all you need to know.

Nicky91 · 22-12-2021, 09:13 AM

Scholz also called for neighbouring countries to go for the same strict measures, specifically Belgium's government

Alf · 22-12-2021, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No Alf , it’ comes from a doctor

And if admissions are high but the death rate is low compared to when there was no vaccination it tells you all you need to know.

Who was this doctor? Did this doctor go around and count them all? Why is this doctor giving out people's private medical information?

bots · 22-12-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Who was this doctor? Did this doctor go around and count them all? Why is this doctor giving out people's private medical information?

all the published data shows a drop in hospitalisation and death for those vaccinated Alf. Feel free to ignore that as you always do

thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Who was this doctor? Did this doctor go around and count them all? Why is this doctor giving out people's private medical information?

It’s not private, it’s numbers Alf

Alf · 22-12-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s not private, it’s numbers Alf

But if dishonest people are the ones doing those numbers, then those numbers can be cooked.

Alf · 22-12-2021, 09:52 AM

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all the published data shows a drop in hospitalisation and death for those vaccinated Alf. Feel free to ignore that as you always do

I don't ignore it. If I was ignoring it I wouldn't be here questioning it.

thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

But if dishonest people are the ones doing those numbers, then those numbers can be cooked.

Alf use your noodle

Admissions up death rate down why is that

Why do you think the government are at loggerheads with the heads of medical science

Medical professionals are there to save life not to worry about getting re election

Alf · 22-12-2021, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Alf use your noodle

Admissions up death rate down why is that

Why do you think the government are at loggerheads with the heads of medical science

Medical professionals are there to save life not to worry about getting re election

It's because I use my noodle that I don't just accept the word of people I don't know and instead like to question things that don't sound right.

thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

It's because I use my noodle that I don't just accept the word of people I don't know and instead like to question things that don't sound right.

I trust the word of science and the men and women that knows science more than that of a political party

I believe in science more than I believe in god

thesheriff443 · 22-12-2021, 10:08 AM

Do people actually think the way to control people is bring a country to its knees
Put us into a black hole that will take years to get out of

Alf · 22-12-2021, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I trust the word of science and the men and women that knows science more than that of a political party

I believe in science more than I believe in god

You trust the word of some scientists but not all.

If science can't be questioned then it's not science.

Crimson Dynamo · 22-12-2021, 10:34 AM

Latest data minus any scaremongering for money or status

I cant post it properly as it uses 2 = signs in the url for some reason but link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDhIL9o3vHg&t=999s