[Nicky91]

uh huh, people vaccinated, and still they get infected with covid, and some even end up in hospital

how do we explain that?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

uh huh, people vaccinated, and still they get infected with covid, and some even end up in hospital

how do we explain that?

Omicron causes just a quarter of deaths as previous waves, first data suggests


Researchers looking at South Africa said there had been a clear decoupling of
cases, hospitalisations and deaths compared with other waves

They found that just 4.5 per cent died during the omicron wave, compared
with 21.3 per cent before the variant took hold.

The team said that if the findings were reproduced globally there would be a
‘complete decoupling of case and death rates’ that would end the epidemic
and usher in an endemic phase.

Although the population is younger in South Africa, which would keep death
rates lower, Britain has higher levels of vaccination and seroprevalence.

Writing in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, the authors
concluded: “There was decreased severity of disease in the omicron-driven
fourth wave in the City of Tshwane, its first global epicentre, with fewer
deaths, ICU admissions and a shorter length of stay.

“There are clear signs that case and admission rates in South Africa may
decline further over the next few weeks.

“If this pattern continues and is repeated globally, we are likely to see a
complete decoupling of case and death rates suggesting that omicron may be
a harbinger of the end of the epidemic phase of the Covid pandemic
ushering in its endemic phase.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-first-data/

I note Nicola made no mention of this but had the data suggested the opposite her the Holland bloke and Dripford would be shouting about it from the rooftops

disgusting

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies

Omicron causes just a quarter of deaths as previous waves, first data suggests


Researchers looking at South Africa said there had been a clear decoupling of
cases, hospitalisations and deaths compared with other waves

They found that just 4.5 per cent died during the omicron wave, compared
with 21.3 per cent before the variant took hold.

The team said that if the findings were reproduced globally there would be a
‘complete decoupling of case and death rates’ that would end the epidemic
and usher in an endemic phase.

Although the population is younger in South Africa, which would keep death
rates lower, Britain has higher levels of vaccination and seroprevalence.

Writing in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, the authors
concluded: “There was decreased severity of disease in the omicron-driven
fourth wave in the City of Tshwane, its first global epicentre, with fewer
deaths, ICU admissions and a shorter length of stay.

“There are clear signs that case and admission rates in South Africa may
decline further over the next few weeks.

“If this pattern continues and is repeated globally, we are likely to see a
complete decoupling of case and death rates suggesting that omicron may be
a harbinger of the end of the epidemic phase of the Covid pandemic
ushering in its endemic phase.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...es-first-data/

I note Nicola made no mention of this but had the data suggested the opposite her the Holland bloke and Dripford would be shouting about it from the rooftops

disgusting

So if it causes a quarter of deaths compared to other variants that’s clearly a positive BUT if it’s ten times more virulent and doubles every 3 days then it’s possibly irrelevant that it’s only 25% as dangerous as the others. It could still cause many more hospitalisations and / or deaths


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So if it causes a quarter of deaths compared to other variants that’s clearly a positive BUT if it’s ten times more virulent and doubles every 3 days then it’s possibly irrelevant that it’s only 25% as dangerous as the others. It could still cause many more hospitalisations and / or deaths


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thats in the people hospitalised though and as the number being hospitalised because of boosters etc is tiny, its then a much lower percentage of a much lower percentage. Omicron is the best thing that could have happened with covid, and its about time deniers start acknowledging it

Another fact based on actual data is that the average length of stay in hospital before recovery from omicron is 3 days, down from 14+ days with delta

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

thats in the people hospitalised though and as the number being hospitalised because of boosters etc is tiny, its then a much lower percentage of a much lower percentage. Omicron is the best thing that could have happened with covid, and its about time deniers start acknowledging it

Another fact based on actual data is that the average length of stay in hospital before recovery from omicron is 3 days, down from 14+ days with delta

Delta cases right down now thanks to Omicron

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

thats in the people hospitalised though and as the number being hospitalised because of boosters etc is tiny, its then a much lower percentage of a much lower percentage. Omicron is the best thing that could have happened with covid, and its about time deniers start acknowledging it

Another fact based on actual data is that the average length of stay in hospital before recovery from omicron is 3 days, down from 14+ days with delta

It all sounds very hopeful .. thank the lawd .

I do worry about the future variants though .. we surely can’t assume that Covid won’t throw us a curve ball


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It all sounds very hopeful .. thank the lawd .

I do worry about the future variants though .. we surely can’t assume that Covid won’t throw us a curve ball


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Virus strains TEND not to become more symptomatically severe over time, after all its a living organism and living organisms evolve to survive - for a virus that actually means that the "Best" version is one that spreads quickly whilst damaging the pool of hosts as little as possible. A "perfect" virus would be easy to catch but completely asymptomatic.

That doesn't mean it's not possible mind you. Just less likely.