[Parmy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well I have a few stories to tell of sightings, happenings that are unexplained that makes me believe in something...

Let's hear one then....

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I would have thought dna was the basic building block that makes a person who they are. Sure in another life you would have different stimuli leading you down different paths, but if you were formed from the same dna, it would be "you". It basically depends where you draw the line

Talking of DNA,

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

The fashion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The fashion.

[Parmy]

If you could spend a week after dying doing one of these 2 things..which one would you pick..


A. Being a fly on the wall for a week somewhere in the future.

B. Being a fly on the wall for a week somewhere in the past.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

His eye for a bargain

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

he was that guy always talking about the weather

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he was that guy always talking about the weather

Telling everyone its to warm for the candles.

[Redway]

To answer the title question: it means a lot to me. A hell of a lot.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

scientific fact is not opinion



If you get your head chopped off by a samurai sword you will be dead

fact

that aint no opinion

when you all off a ladder you hit the ground hard

Gravity isnt an opinion

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I would have thought dna was the basic building block that makes a person who they are. Sure in another life you would have different stimuli leading you down different paths, but if you were formed from the same dna, it would be "you". It basically depends where you draw the line

You would have thought... But you don't know.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

As long as religion is kept away from education and politics people can believe what they like

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As long as religion is kept away from education and politics people can believe what they like

I agree, although without some religious involvement in the State, Christmas and Easter wouldn't be the bank holidays that they are, of course. And we'd all miss them, whatever you believe in.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Livia

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

Agreed on all points.

[Redway]

Mainstream science held at one point that blacks were inferior savages. Was that acceptable and correct just because science had something to say about it, LT?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As long as religion is kept away from education and politics people can believe what they like

But that’s neither here nor there as far as this thread’s concerned. Like Livia said it’s always the same people imposing their robotic beliefs onto other people’s personal belief systems. Who the hell brought up politics and education in this thread besides you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Mainstream science held at one point that blacks were inferior savages. Was that acceptable and correct just because science had something to say about it, LT?

and through peer review, facts, criticism, learning, analysis and change they moved on

allow me to remind you of the last part of your Bible book...

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If
anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in
this book.

And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take
away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are
described in this book."
:skull"

control, control, control
backward, backward, backward

[Glenn.]

It’s a fairytale we tell ourselves to make us feel better about dying. Simple as really.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s a fairytale we tell ourselves to make us feel better about dying. Simple as really.

That’s coming from a purely contemporary British lens. I don’t think you have the cultural seasoning to understand the afterlife in a deeper sense because it doesn’t tally up with your experiences but that approach doesn’t hold space for other people’s experiences.

“Vindaloo, jollof rice and chow mein are crap because I’m used to mushy peas and fried cod alone and anything that doesn’t resonate with my barely-salted tastebuds might as well not exist.”

Said anecdote applies here. If you had more Jewish, black and Asian friends (or people with more psychedelic/spiritual edge wherever they’re from) your experiences would be very different.

“Simple as really.”

[Redway]

Your lay British chap is the most spiritually unseasoned and empty person in the world. It’s fun watching said folk justify their robotic disinterest in spiritual matters with science (science that can’t even invent time travel or unveil all the intricate wonders of the solar system in its fullest just yet).

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and through peer review, facts, criticism, learning, analysis and change they moved on

allow me to remind you of the last part of your Bible book...

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If
anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in
this book.

And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take
away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are
described in this book."
:skull"

control, control, control
backward, backward, backward

And what exactly has organised religion got to do with the afterlife?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Let's hear one then....

Ok…my mum passed away nearly two years ago. A few weeks after her funeral I went to bed and as I laid in bed i willed her to give me a sign that she was there. As I shut my eyes and started to doze the light in the en-suite suddenly went on. Thinking it was my husband I ignored it…then realised he was lying next to me. I checked the en-suite out…opening the door I thought I might have found a spider or big moth that may have triggered the touch sensitive light…but nothing.
A week later I noticed a very chunky mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off of the fixings resting on my linen basket…it’s very heavy. Nobody in my house had moved it…unexplainable.
I have more….but I will be here all night

[user104658]

I think it's fair enough to say that "we don't really know much about anything for sure". That I can get on board with. However, it's the "In a universe of infinite possibility, with no evidence nor any real reasoning, I believe that *I* (and those who believe as I do) happen to have stumbled upon the correct answer".

The likelihood of anything that anyone believes even resembling any sort of obective truth is infinitesimally small.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ok…my mum passed away nearly two years ago. A few weeks after her funeral I went to bed and as I laid in bed i willed her to give me a sign that she was there. As I shut my eyes and started to doze the light in the en-suite suddenly went on. Thinking it was my husband I ignored it…then realised he was lying next to me. I checked the en-suite out…opening the door I thought I might have found a spider or big moth that may have triggered the touch sensitive light…but nothing.
A week later I noticed a very chunky mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off of the fixings resting on my linen basket…it’s very heavy. Nobody in my house had moved it…unexplainable.
I have more….but I will be here all night

Anecdotes and science are not comparable in any way shape or form. Hence why anecdotes don't and have never progressed humanity one millimetre.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

And what exactly has organised religion got to do with the afterlife?

They invented it to exert control


Just saying