[Parmy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ok…my mum passed away nearly two years ago. A few weeks after her funeral I went to bed and as I laid in bed i willed her to give me a sign that she was there. As I shut my eyes and started to doze the light in the en-suite suddenly went on. Thinking it was my husband I ignored it…then realised he was lying next to me. I checked the en-suite out…opening the door I thought I might have found a spider or big moth that may have triggered the touch sensitive light…but nothing.
A week later I noticed a very chunky mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off of the fixings resting on my linen basket…it’s very heavy. Nobody in my house had moved it…unexplainable.
I have more….but I will be here all night

That sounds like proof to me..

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That sounds like proof to me..

My brother who was so anti in his belief of ‘ghosts’ also had a strange experience when he redecorated his old house in Devon…he felt someone was watching him and turned to see an image of an old lady watching him…his description of her down to her clothing described the woman who lived and died there before he bought the house….strange noises were heard by his 7 year old son characteristic of a ‘presence’…
My friend when she sold her old house had a child looking out of the window captured in the picture taken by the Estate agent…
My other friend recently let out her recently departed brothers house to that friends daughter, boyfriend and 2 year old son. The 2 year old has been heard on 3 occasions ‘talking’ to someone in his room and his mother asked him who he was talking to and he just pointed to the corner of his room and said “him”….

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

That’s coming from a purely contemporary British lens. I don’t think you have the cultural seasoning to understand the afterlife in a deeper sense because it doesn’t tally up with your experiences but that approach doesn’t hold space for other people’s experiences.

“Vindaloo, jollof rice and chow mein are crap because I’m used to mushy peas and fried cod alone and anything that doesn’t resonate with my barely-salted tastebuds might as well not exist.”

Said anecdote applies here. If you had more Jewish, black and Asian friends (or people with more psychedelic/spiritual edge wherever they’re from) your experiences would be very different.

“Simple as really.”

Carry on talking to the man in sky Redway he will listen to your magical stories.

[Glenn.]

I wasn’t going to go down that route but you seem to be as ignorant to my beliefs as I am to yours. Let’s just agree to disagree

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Carry on talking to the man in sky Redway he will listen to your magical stories.

You’re from a completely different world so it’s whatever at this point. Not really arsed. Just know that your robotic approach doesn’t wash with half of the world.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re from a completely different world so it’s whatever at this point. Not really arsed. Just know that your robotic approach doesn’t wash with half of the world.

Right back at ya

[Redway]

Thank God for the likes of Livia still. It’s nice to see a few like-minded people popping about in a sea full of dogmatic robots.

[Glenn.]

Imagine pushing religion in 2022

[Jordan.]

I believe in the afterlife, I'm not like other girls.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Imagine pushing religion in 2022

Imagine being dismissive of people’s individual beliefs (some of which are deeply rooted in seasoned culture) in 2022.

Agents of white male supremacy are the funniest still. And I’m nearly three-quarters white myself. I’m only a little mixed as far as my direct gene pool goes but that drop of seasoning I have is enough to know that culture, spirituality and corresponding beliefs in the afterlife are deeply intertwined in a way that’s deserving of nothing other than respect. As a pure chips-and-mushy-peas dude you have no idea of the rich cultural life that half the world is privy to (and that even the West was until fairly recently).

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Imagine being dismissive of people’s individual beliefs (some of which are deeply rooted in seasoned culture) in 2022.

Agents of white male supremacy are the funniest still. And I’m nearly three-quarters white myself. I’m only a little mixed as far as my direct gene pool goes but that drop of seasoning I have is enough to know that culture, spirituality and corresponding beliefs in the afterlife are deeply intertwined in a way that’s deserving of nothing other than respect. As a pure chips-and-mushy-peas dude you have no idea of the rich cultural life that half the world is privy to (and that even the West was until fairly recently).

But you’re being as equally dismissive of peoples views…

[Redway]

Not really. You started forcing the “it’s all a fairytale” narrative before anyone else did. People citing their personal beliefs in the afterlife were cool up until that point, which is why no-one on our side dismissed anything.

If you can’t take it back then don’t dish it out.

“Simple as really.”

[Redway]

I think the dismissively spiritually-unseasoned would be better off eating mushy peas and cracking on. Leave this discussion for people who can have a neutral two-way exchange in a culturally-respectful way.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Redway

I think the dismissively spiritually-unseasoned would be better off eating mushy peas and cracking on. Leave this discussion for people who can have a neutral two-way exchange in a culturally-respectful way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ok…my mum passed away nearly two years ago. A few weeks after her funeral I went to bed and as I laid in bed i willed her to give me a sign that she was there. As I shut my eyes and started to doze the light in the en-suite suddenly went on. Thinking it was my husband I ignored it…then realised he was lying next to me. I checked the en-suite out…opening the door I thought I might have found a spider or big moth that may have triggered the touch sensitive light…but nothing.
A week later I noticed a very chunky mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off of the fixings resting on my linen basket…it’s very heavy. Nobody in my house had moved it…unexplainable.
I have more….but I will be here all night

Why would a ghost of a loved one not be more clear though, if it is them giving you a sign why not write Hi Rustic in a steamy mirror or something, why turning on a light or moving a mirror?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would a ghost of a loved one not be more clear though, if it is them giving you a sign why not write Hi Rustic in a steamy mirror or something, why turning on a light or moving a mirror?

Whats the difference ....leaving a message on a mirror would personally freak me out... whereas little things happening with no explanation is to me a nicer way of someone showing their presence....
The light going on after I had willed her for a sign...a light fitting we have had for 6 years and never done that before and never since is far too coincidental...maybe it was pure coincidence ...but other little things have happened since and we all now just say "its Grandma"....its endearing and somewhat comforting.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Not really. You started forcing the “it’s all a fairytale” narrative before anyone else did. People citing their personal beliefs in the afterlife were cool up until that point, which is why no-one on our side dismissed anything.

If you can’t take it back then don’t dish it out.

“Simple as really.”

It’s my personal belief that the afterlife is a fairytale we tell ourselves because the truth is obviously too hard for people to accept. There isn’t any pearly gates or a realm we all float about in. There isn’t anything waiting for us.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Whats the difference ....leaving a message on a mirror would personally freak me out... whereas little things happening with no explanation is to me a nicer way of someone showing their presence....
The light going on after I had willed her for a sign...a light fitting we have had for 6 years and never done that before and never since is far too coincidental...maybe it was pure coincidence ...but other little things have happened since and we all now just say "its Grandma"....its endearing and somewhat comforting.

The difference is one is pretty direct, the other is vague.

Anyway, if it gives you comfort more power to you, it just doesn't make any kind of sense to me

[Crimson Dynamo]

the afterlife was invented by religions

so...

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Whats the difference ....leaving a message on a mirror would personally freak me out... whereas little things happening with no explanation is to me a nicer way of someone showing their presence....
The light going on after I had willed her for a sign...a light fitting we have had for 6 years and never done that before and never since is far too coincidental...maybe it was pure coincidence ...but other little things have happened since and we all now just say "its Grandma"....its endearing and somewhat comforting.

Which leads us to Glenn's point.

[Parmy]

I just had premonition that liva, will win the 7.30 at kempton at a lovely 7/1.

Aye.

[Parmy]

LT and Glenn.

What would you like the afterlife to be like?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

LT and Glenn.

What would you like the afterlife to be like?

Its like asking what carpets would you get in the new wing of Hogwarts

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Which leads us to Glenn's point.

Not at all….unless you can explain what happened…

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its like asking what carpets would you get in the new wing of Hogwarts

Exactly, so....

What would you want/like it to be like if you could magical one up?