[arista]

[JK Rowling slams Keir Starmer after
Labour leader says ‘trans women are women’,
as Harry Potter author says the party
can 'no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights'
Harry Potter author took aim at Keir Starmer
saying 'women's anger is growing'
She criticised Labour party on Twitter
for no 'longer defending women’s rights'
Starmer last night insisted 'trans women are women'
claiming it 'was the law'
The Labour leader called for a more
'respectful' debate on transgender issues]




[She also slammed Sir Keir for
'publicly misrepresenting' the 2010 Equality Act,
which legally protects people from
discrimination in the workplace and
in wider society, and said women's
anger was 'growing'.]



He also one of his MP's against him on this



Sign Of The Times.

[UserSince2005]

Freeze her assets now.

[LeatherTrumpet]

More woke madness and another reason (if you need anymore) why starmer will never be PM

[Jordan.]

Does this woman have any personality outside of hating transwomen it's so sad to see.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

More woke madness and another reason (if you need anymore) why starmer will never be PM

Great Points LT.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Great Points LT.

JK is the way forward against this nonsense

She is quite the woman in this post author period in her successful life

[Oliver_W]

Transwomen aren't women though there's no need to pretend they are, especially when the world (and women!) have enough to deal with ATM.

[Liam-]

She won’t be happy until trans people are completely secluded from society, such a horrible, hateful woman, it’s a shame really, she could have been a torch carrier for decent conversation but she’s chosen to just out herself as an outright bigot and go down this route, she should be thoroughly ashamed, but anti-trans rhetoric is cool these days, her and her ilk have no issues shouting about what they are and they have the backing of the establishment and the media who have found their new victims

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She won’t be happy until trans people are completely secluded from society, such a horrible, hateful woman, it’s a shame really, she could have been a torch carrier for decent conversation but she’s chosen to just out herself as an outright bigot and go down this route, she should be thoroughly ashamed, but anti-trans rhetoric is cool these days, her and her ilk have no issues shouting about what they are and they have the backing of the establishment and the media who have found their new victims

When has she been bigoted or hateful?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Transwomen aren't women though there's no need to pretend they are, especially when the world (and women!) have enough to deal with ATM.

and pretending its so for some woke agenda is actually moving backwards

more power to her elbow

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Does this woman have any personality outside of hating transwomen it's so sad to see.

Writing best selling books etc etc stuff like that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She won’t be happy until trans people are completely secluded from society, such a horrible, hateful woman, it’s a shame really, she could have been a torch carrier for decent conversation but she’s chosen to just out herself as an outright bigot and go down this route, she should be thoroughly ashamed, but anti-trans rhetoric is cool these days, her and her ilk have no issues shouting about what they are and they have the backing of the establishment and the media who have found their new victims

Defending women = Bigot....nothing new

[Livia]

Why do we never have trans men threatening born men with violence? Because they wouldn't bloody put up with it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why do we never have trans men threatening born men with violence? Because they wouldn't bloody put up with it.

Also biological differences do actually matter... go figure

[Kizzy]

Me and my kids agree on most things.. they are lefties too. But we do differ massively on this, especially my gen z, he is disgusted by my views on this.
I am really conflicted myself too as I can appreciate the issues faced by the trans community, and yet I always find myself disagreeing with the politically advocated view on this issue.

I am all for anyone living how you like, one life .you do you and all that . But .. unless you grew up from a baby, infant, child, adolescent and young adult as a female then you haven't had the socialisation that shapes what I consider a woman. ( and obviously the same for men)
This is only my personal view, it might upset some and I am sorry for that, I've gone over and over it many many times but I can't change my stance on this.

Essentially what I'm saying is my belief is trans male and female can't be men and women as they haven't had the whole life experience.

[GoldHeart]

Well hang on a minute what exactly was Starmer supposed to say ? . I'm not even a fan of his , but did JK want him to start calling trans women "MEN" ? Or something ? . Starmer knows biologically they were born male.But they identify as female now.

I have agreed with the points JK Rowling has made with protecting womens rights etc,I'm a woman myself.

But it feels like this is a pointless rant she's gone on now or am I missing something?? .

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well hang on a minute what exactly was Starmer supposed to say ? . I'm not even a fan of his , but did JK want him to start calling trans women "MEN" ? Or something ? . Starmer knows biologically they were born male.But they identify as female now.

I have agreed with the points JK Rowling has made with protecting womens rights etc,I'm a woman myself.

But it feels like this is a pointless rant she's gone on now or am I missing something?? .

Transphobes would have loved for him to say that, thankfully the things they feel emboldened to say behind the safety of their keyboard is not the reality of the real world.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Writing best selling books etc etc stuff like that

Easy to forget when her twitter antics have become more memorable than anything she's released in the last decade.

[Cherie]

Has a politician ever singled out trans men for their support?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Easy to forget when her twitter antics have become more memorable than anything she's released in the last decade.

And yet no-one can point to anything actually bigoted or hateful...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Me and my kids agree on most things.. they are lefties too. But we do differ massively on this, especially my gen z, he is disgusted by my views on this.
I am really conflicted myself too as I can appreciate the issues faced by the trans community, and yet I always find myself disagreeing with the politically advocated view on this issue.

I am all for anyone living how you like, one life .you do you and all that . But .. unless you grew up from a baby, infant, child, adolescent and young adult as a female then you haven't had the socialisation that shapes what I consider a woman. ( and obviously the same for men)
This is only my personal view, it might upset some and I am sorry for that, I've gone over and over it many many times but I can't change my stance on this.

Essentially what I'm saying is my belief is trans male and female can't be men and women as they haven't had the whole life experience.

I'm apparently a millennial, just a couple of years off being a zoomer, and I'm at odds with a lot of people my age and younger about the trans issue.

I feel like either a) I'm taking crazy pills or b) people my age and down have lost the ability to think critically about the issue of gender

Gender is a social construct, and some aspects of gender norms change through time, but males are males and females are females. How one "identifies" has nothing to do with anything, and a thought in someone's head shouldn't be put above biological realities, especially when it comes to one group's rights...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Me and my kids agree on most things.. they are lefties too. But we do differ massively on this, especially my gen z, he is disgusted by my views on this.
I am really conflicted myself too as I can appreciate the issues faced by the trans community, and yet I always find myself disagreeing with the politically advocated view on this issue.

I am all for anyone living how you like, one life .you do you and all that . But .. unless you grew up from a baby, infant, child, adolescent and young adult as a female then you haven't had the socialisation that shapes what I consider a woman. ( and obviously the same for men)
This is only my personal view, it might upset some and I am sorry for that, I've gone over and over it many many times but I can't change my stance on this.

Essentially what I'm saying is my belief is trans male and female can't be men and women as they haven't had the whole life experience.

Well yeah I think most people think this way, previously left leaning people haven't all of a sudden just turned into nasty bigots for no reason (despite the narrative) there is a reason for sex based rights (specifically for women)

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well yeah I think most people think this way, previously left leaning people haven't all of a sudden just turned into nasty bigots for no reason (despite the narrative) there is a reason for sex based rights (specifically for women)

I think most people who enter the debate for genuine reasons know that...

There are an element who just want to stir the pot and be nasty

[Alf]

[Mystic Mock]

Like Goldheart, I honestly don't get what she wanted Starmer to come out and say here?